What is the Maximum Acceleration of a Mass Attached to a Vertical Spring?

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To calculate the maximum acceleration of a mass attached to a vertical spring, the formula a_max = v_max * ω is used, where ω is derived from the spring constant k and mass m. The discussion highlights that the net forces at the top and bottom of the oscillation differ due to the gravitational force acting on the mass, leading to different accelerations at these points. At equilibrium, the spring force balances the weight of the mass, but this balance changes when the mass is displaced. The confusion arises from the assumption that accelerations at the extremes are the same, which is incorrect for vertical systems. Understanding that the spring force varies with displacement is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement



A 0,824kg mass attached to a vertical spring of a force constant 162N/m oscillates with a maximum speed of 0,372 m/s. Calculate the maximum acceleration of the mass.

The Attempt at a Solution



amax=vmax*\omega

\omega=\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}}

Is that correct?
 
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Yes, that will work.
 
I am a bit confused on how to calculate the acceleration of the mass. Are the accelerations at the bottom and the top the same or different? at eq we have kx=mg. when you displace the mass downward and release, ma=kx-mg. when the mass reaches the top, kx+mg=ma. since x is the same in both cases, the two a's need to be different. what is the flaw in my line of thinking?
 
Li109 said:
I am a bit confused on how to calculate the acceleration of the mass. Are the accelerations at the bottom and the top the same or different? at eq we have kx=mg. when you displace the mass downward and release, ma=kx-mg. when the mass reaches the top, kx+mg=ma. since x is the same in both cases, the two a's need to be different. what is the flaw in my line of thinking?
Realize that the mass oscillates about the equilibrium point, where kx0 = mg.

At the lowest point, the net force is: k(x0 + A) - mg = kA (upward)
At the highest point, the net force is: k(x0 - A) - mg = -kA (downward)
 
Doc Al said:
Realize that the mass oscillates about the equilibrium point, where kx0 = mg.

At the lowest point, the net force is: k(x0 + A) - mg = kA (upward)
At the highest point, the net force is: k(x0 - A) - mg = -kA (downward)

i still don't understand. can u please explain further?
 
so this means that the force due to the spring at the top and the bottom are different? while if the system was horizontal, it'd be the same at both extremes?
 
Li109 said:
so this means that the force due to the spring at the top and the bottom are different?
Right.
while if the system was horizontal, it'd be the same at both extremes?
If the system was horizontal, the equilibrium point would be at the unstretched position, x = 0. Thus at one extreme the spring force would be kA and at the other it would be -kA.
 
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