What is the normal force on the driver?

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The discussion centers on calculating the normal force on a driver in a car as it transitions from the top of a circular hill to the bottom of a circular valley. At the hill's peak, the normal force is zero, leading to confusion about the centripetal acceleration and forces involved. The gravitational force acting on the driver is calculated as 686 N, and it is noted that the direction of centripetal acceleration differs at the top and bottom of the hill. The correct normal force at the bottom of the valley is determined to be double the gravitational force, resulting in a value of 1.37 x 10^3 N. The key takeaway is that the normal force at the valley must account for both gravitational and centripetal forces, leading to Fn = 2 * mg.
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Homework Statement


A car is driven at constant speed over a circular hill and then into a circular valley with the same radius. At the top of the hill the normal force on the driver from the car seat is 0. The driver's mass is 70.0 kg. What is the magnitude of the normal force on the driver from the seat when the car passes through the bottom of the valley??


Homework Equations


Fg - Fn = 0 ?
F = mv^2/r


The Attempt at a Solution


Stumped. I looked at this question and was like... wtf?

Only thing I can think of is Fg - Fn cannot equal zero because there is always Fg and if Fn is 0, then that equation doesn't make sense. But I don't know any better than this equation. I'm so confused! =S
 
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At the top of the hill if his normal force is 0, then what must his centripetal acceleration be?
 
LowlyPion said:
At the top of the hill if his normal force is 0, then what must his centripetal acceleration be?

Fg = 9.8 * 70 = 686
 
How is the direction of the centripetal acceleration different at the top as opposed to the valley?
 
LowlyPion said:
How is the direction of the centripetal acceleration different at the top as opposed to the valley?

At the top, it is directed downwards toward the centre, at the bottom is directed up toward the centre...
 
Shatzkinator said:
At the top, it is directed downwards toward the centre, at the bottom is directed up toward the centre...

... and you still can't answer the original question?
 
Fn = Fg .. which would be al;so 686 at the bottom of the hill.

The answer should be 1.37 x 10^3 N

=P

No I still can't answer the original question.

Edit: and yes I see the answer is 2* 686... I have no idea why.
 
In the first case Fn = 0 = mg - mv2/r

That means that mv2/r = mg.

In the valley

Fn = mg + mv2/r

But you just figured out that mg = mv2/r so

Fn = 2*mg
 
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