What is the Probability of Drawing Certain Numbers from a Bag of Counters?

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The discussion revolves around calculating probabilities from a set of counters numbered 1 to 5. The user, Mo, struggles with determining the probability of drawing two counters that sum to more than 7, initially calculating it as 1/5 based on a sample space of 20 outcomes. Another participant clarifies that there are only 10 unique combinations for drawing two counters, leading to the correct probability of 1/5 for sums greater than 7. Mo also mistakenly assumes the probability remains 1/5 after drawing one counter, but is corrected that it should be adjusted to 1/4 for subsequent draws. The conversation emphasizes understanding combinations and adjusting probabilities based on remaining options.
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I absolutely hate stats! its got to be one of the worst topics going.Anyway here is the (simple) question i am having (lots) of problems with! (im revising over and can't remember a thing!)

"In each of the following questions, list a sample space consisting of equally likely outcomes and hence find the required probabilities"

1) There are 5 counters in a bag, each marked with a different number from the set {1,2,3,4,5} .Two counters are drawn from the bag,Find the probabaility the total score on the counters is

a) greater than 7
b) a prime number*
c) an odd number*

I made up a sample space diagram and i find out that out of 20 possible outcomes, 4 added up to be greater than 7. So my answer was 1/5

However i reread it and i done it through another way ... i said:

p(grater than 7) is the probabaility we get... p(3,5) + p(5,3) + p(4,5) + p(5,4)

(ok so this is essentially the same) BUT the probability of getting a 3 is 1/5 right? so we get (1/5 X 1/5) X 4 = 4/25

so ... which one i correct?

Please, please help!

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Mo


* i think ill attempt these again once i know the answer for this.
 
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Mo said:
I made up a sample space diagram and i find out that out of 20 possible outcomes, 4 added up to be greater than 7. So my answer was 1/5
That's correct. It was unnecessary to consider (3,5) different from (5,3) though. There are {5 \choose 2} = 10 ways of picking two counters and only (3,5) and (4,5) give a sum greater than 7. So the prob. is 1/5.
Same answer and both methods are valid.

p(grater than 7) is the probabaility we get... p(3,5) + p(5,3) + p(4,5) + p(5,4)

(ok so this is essentially the same) BUT the probability of getting a 3 is 1/5 right? so we get (1/5 X 1/5) X 4 = 4/25

Remember that once you have taken a counter (say 3) out of the bag there are 4 left. So the probability of picking the 5 after you've taken the 3 is not 1/5, but 1/4.
 
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thank you Galileo!

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