What is the radius of the orbit of an electron

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The discussion revolves around calculating the radius of an electron's orbit in a magnetic field, given its kinetic energy. The subject area includes concepts from electromagnetism and classical mechanics.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the velocity of an electron based on its kinetic energy and then use that to find the radius of its orbit in a magnetic field. Some participants question the validity of the calculated velocity, particularly in relation to the speed of light. Others suggest that the original poster may have misinterpreted the energy unit eV, leading to an incorrect velocity calculation.

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Participants have provided guidance regarding the conversion of energy units from eV to Joules, which has led to a revised calculation of velocity. The original poster expresses gratitude for the clarification and indicates a better understanding of the issue.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the proper conversion of kinetic energy from electronvolts to joules, which is critical for accurate calculations in this context.

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Hi All,

Having difficultly figuring out where I've gone wrong with this problem. Any guidance gratefully received.

1. Homework Statement


A 4.76 keV electron (an electron that has a kinetic energy equal to 4.76 keV) moves in a circular orbit that is perpendicular to a magnetic field of 0.392 T.

i) Find the radius of the orbit.

Homework Equations



KE = 0.5 m v^2

r = mv / qB (where r = radius, m = mass of electron, q = charge of electron and B = magnetic field)

The Attempt at a Solution



Given the KE and the mass, find the velocity v. KE = 4.76 x 10^3 eV and m = 9.109x10^-31 kg

v = sqrt ( (2xKE / m))

v = sqrt ( (2x(4.76x10^3)/9.109 x 10^-31))

v= 1.02 x 10^17 m/s

Now having found the velocity v, find the radius r.

r = mv / qB

r = (9.109x10^-31)(1.02 x 10^17) / (1.602x10^-19)(0.392)

r = 1.48 x 10^6 m

However this answer is wrong and I don't know where I'm going wrong. Any help greatfully recieved.
 
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Compare the velocity you found to the speed of light. Does it make sense? :wink:
 
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Now that you mention it, it's a rather daft velocity.

1) I'm sure I'm using the right formula : KE = .5 (m) v ^2
2) The rearrangement to obtain v on the LHS looks correct: v = sqrt ( (2xKE / m))
3) And the calculation is correct : v = sqrt ( (2x(4.76x10^3)/9.109 x 10^-31))
4) So it leads me to think that I have the wrong value for the energy of the electron in the formula which is generating such a large velocity. So there is some transformation I need to do to 4.76x10^eV...

However after looking back at my books and notes, I can't figure this one out.

Could you please push me in the right direction. A good strong shove would be appreciated :-)
 
Shove: While the eV is indeed an energy unit, 1 eV ≠ 1 J . Look up its definition.
 
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Thank you for that shove.

I misunderstood eV. I see the definition is : 1eV = 1.602 x 10^-19 J.
I should be using Joules for KE.

v = sqrt ( (2x(4.76x10^3 * 1.602x10^-19 )/9.109 x 10^-31))

v = 4.09 x 10^7 m/s

which is still about 13% of the speed of light, so rather fast...

Is this correct now?
 
Yup. Much better! :approve:
 
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Thank you very much, that was really very helpful.
I've a much better understanding of what I was doing wrong now.
 

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