What is the relationship between mass and weight?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between mass and weight, exploring the concepts of proportionality and the influence of gravity. Participants examine the definitions and implications of these terms, particularly in the context of physics and everyday measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of the constant and proportional relationship between mass and weight, suggesting that weight depends on both mass and gravity.
  • Another participant confirms that gravity (g) can be treated as a constant for practical purposes on Earth, but notes that it varies with location and height.
  • A participant explains that weight is the force of gravity acting on a mass, and while g is not truly constant, it is often treated as such for simplicity in most discussions.
  • There is a distinction made between mass and weight, with mass being an intrinsic property of an object and weight being the force experienced due to gravity, leading to some interchangeability in casual contexts.

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Participants express varying degrees of understanding and interpretation of the relationship between mass and weight, with some agreeing on the basic principles while others highlight nuances and conditions that complicate the discussion. No consensus is reached on all aspects of the relationship.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the value of g is not constant in all situations, and the discussion includes considerations of how mass and weight are defined and measured, particularly in different contexts such as near Earth's surface versus in space.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in physics, particularly those seeking to understand the fundamental concepts of mass and weight and their applications in real-world scenarios.

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What does it mean that the relationship between mass and weight is constant and proportional?
I think I don't get it yet. The weight depends of mass, but at the same time depends of gravity, so if mass increase, the weight so does. But if we're on Earth we know that"g" has a value, therefore that "g" could be the constant in this equation that represents the relation: w=m⋅g, Is that the reason why the relationship between this two magnitudes is constant and proportional?
I hope I have explained myself well.
 
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harry_thawne said:
Summary:: What does it mean that the relationship between mass and weight is constant and proportional?

But if we're on Earth we know that"g" has a value, therefore that "g" could be the constant in this equation that represents the relation: w=m⋅g, Is that the reason why the relationship between this two magnitudes is constant and proportional?

Yes, insofar as ##g## is constant.

There are other ways of using the term weight, but what you describe is the way it's used in science and technology.
 
Weight is the force of gravity on a mass (typically, a mass that is not in freefall with respect to the source of the gravity). Because most human-related measurements and discussions occur near Earth's surface, we can take the proportionality between mass and weight to be g. g is not truly constant, it changes with location and height, but it's useful enough to treat it as constant for most things. If you're launching a rocket into orbit, then you have to be more nuanced.

This is also related to the units we use to describe mass and weight. When we talk about a pound we could mean a pound of mass (454 grams) or a pound of force (~4.4 Newtons), but the distinction doesn't matter as long as we stay near Earth's surface.
 
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Just to try and give a short answer. Mass is an intrinsic property of an object as expressed in the definition of force F=ma. Gravity accelerates objects with a constant acceleration regardless of mass. Since F=ma that means it experiences a force from gravity - sometimes called weight. Since acceleration is constant the force and hence weight is proportional to mass. Because of that they are in some contexts used interchangeably, but really are two different things.

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