What is the Relationship Between Pressure and Volume in the Ideal Gas Law?

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between pressure and volume as described by the ideal gas law, represented by the equation PV = NkT. Participants analyze two scenarios: one where the volume decreases while temperature remains constant, and another where temperature decreases while pressure remains constant. The first scenario yields a pressure change rate of 20 kPa/s, while the second scenario results in a volume change rate of -138 cm³/s, accounting for unit conversions between SI and non-SI units. The importance of precise unit handling in calculations is emphasized.

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The ideal gas law states that the pressure P, volume V , and temperature T of a gas are related by

PV = NkT

where N is the number of molecules of gas, and k is Bolzmann's constant, about 1.38 10^-23 J/K where J is Joules and K is Kelvins. Say that I have 10^24 molecules of gas. The gas begins at a pressure of 200 kPa, inside a 100 cm^3 container, and at a temperature of 400K.

1. Say that I hold the temperature fixed at 400K and begin to decrease the volume of the container at a rate of 10 cm^3/s. At what rate is the pressure changing?

2. What if instead the pressure is kept fixed at 200 kPa, and the gas is cooled at a rate of -2K/s. At what rate is the volume changing?

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This is what I've got:

Does this seem correct? Comments? Corrections?
 
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1.) I agree with your result for the first part, and here's my working:

I begin with:

$$PV=NkT$$

Since $$NkT$$ is constant, differentiating with respect to time $t$ yields:

$$P\frac{dV}{dt}+\frac{dP}{dt}V=0$$

Solving for $$\frac{dP}{dt}$$ there results:

$$\frac{dP}{dt}=-\frac{P}{V}\cdot\frac{dV}{dt}$$

Plugging in the given data, we find:

$$\frac{dP}{dt}=-\frac{200\text{ kPa}}{100\text{ cm}^3}\cdot\left(-10\frac{\text{cm}^3}{s} \right)=20\,\frac{\text{kPa}}{\text{s}}$$

2.) I agree with the method for the second part, but I get a result 1000 times greater:

I begin with:

$$PV=NkT$$

Here $V$ and $T$ are the only changing quantities, so differentiating with respect to time $t$ yields:

$$P\frac{dV}{dt}=Nk\frac{dT}{dt}$$

$$\frac{dV}{dt}=\frac{Nk}{P}\cdot\frac{dT}{dt}$$

Plugging in the given data, we find:

$$\frac{dV}{dt}=\frac{10^{24}\cdot1.38\times10^{-23}\,\frac{\text{J}}{\text{K}}}{200\text{ kPa}}\left(-2\,\frac{\text{K}}{\text{s}} \right)=-138\,\frac{\text{cm}^3}{\text{s}}$$

My answer is 1000 times greater because the standard unit of length in the SI units is the meter (making it $10^6$ greater), and we have kiloPascals reducing it by $10^3$ for a net gain of $10^3$ over your result.
 
Wow, I did not think to see that. Doh! I'm always missing something! Thankfully, sharp people like yourself can point me in the right direction, hehe.
 

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