What is the second mixed partial derivative of df/dx= 3-3(x^2)?

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The problem involves finding the second mixed partial derivative of a function given its first partial derivative with respect to x, specifically df/dx = 3 - 3(x^2). The inquiry centers on the mixed partial derivative d^2f/dydx and the implications of holding x constant during differentiation.

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  • Participants discuss whether the mixed partial derivative d^2f/dydx would be zero or retain the form of df/dx, considering the implications of holding x constant. There is also a consideration of how the function g(x) relates to the differentiation with respect to y.

Discussion Status

The discussion reflects differing interpretations of the mixed partial derivative, with some participants suggesting that holding x constant leads to a derivative of zero, while others explore the relationship between the function and its derivatives. There is an acknowledgment of the equality of mixed derivatives for "nice" functions, contributing to the exploration of the topic.

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Participants are navigating the assumptions about the independence of variables in the context of mixed partial derivatives, particularly regarding the treatment of x and y during differentiation.

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Given the partial derivative df/dx= 3-3(x^2)

what is d^2f/dydx?

I'm not sure if the answer would be 0, since x is held constant, or if it would remain 3-3(x^2) (since df/dx is a function of x now?)
 
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The answer is one of those choices. Here, think about it like this:

You are given a function:

[tex]g(x)=3-3x^2[/tex]

You want to find: [tex]\frac{\partial g}{\partial y}[/tex]

What is that derivative? Now, what if: [tex]g(x)=\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}[/tex]

Does this change the partial derivative of g with respect to y?
 
You were right the first time. With x held constant the d/dy is just differentiating a constant. It's 0.
 
As is always true, with "nice" functions, the two mixed derivatives are equal. You could find [itex]\partial^2 f/\partial x\partial y[/itex] by differentiating first with respect to x, then with respect to y: first getting -6x and then, since it does not depend on y, 0. Or you could differentiate first with respect to y, then with respect to x: getting 0 immediately and then, of course, the derivative of "0" with respect o x is 0.

I, and I suspect many who read your post, was momentarily taken aback since I thought you were "holding x constant" through both derivatives. But you are correct: since this function does not depend on y, any derivative of it with respect to y, is 0.
 

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