What is the Significance of Line of Action of Force?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the line of action of forces in a physics context, specifically examining how forces can be equal and opposite yet have different lines of action. The original poster seeks clarification on this concept as illustrated in provided diagrams.

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  • Participants explore the differences in the representation of forces in diagrams, questioning how forces can be parallel yet not on the same line of action. There is an attempt to reconcile the visual confusion presented by the diagrams.

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Some participants have provided explanations that clarify the relationship between the forces and the magnetic field, noting that the diagrams may not accurately represent the forces' orientations. There is an acknowledgment of partial understanding, with ongoing questions about the diagrams' representations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of visual representations in physics, particularly in three-dimensional contexts, and how these relate to the concept of force lines of action. There is a mention of a potential misunderstanding stemming from the diagrams used in the problem statement.

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Dear members,
In this link, forces f2 and f4 are equal and opposite but they have same line of action
forces f1 and f3 are also equal and opposite but they have different line of action.
I don't understand how f1 and f3 have different line of action and f2 and f4 have same line of action, because both in both cases forces are equal and opposite
Please help me understand this concept of line of action of force, revered members

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The problem I think you have is because the first image is a little confusing since it doesn't give any feeling of 3d space. You must consider both figs and apply the LHR you can see that both F1 and F3 are parallel and both perpendicular to the B field but they are not doth on any single line perpendicular to the B field.They do not act on the same line except when the B field is perpendicular to the plane of the loop.
 
Sir, Thanks for the reply. I got it 80 % now, after re reading your reply. But one more doubt, that is, the second diagram shows F1 and F3 in upward and downward directions but in the first diagram, they are projecting outward to the sides of the loop. Why such a difference between the first and second diagram.
 

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"but they are not DOTH on any single line perpendicular to the B field.They do not act on the same line except when the B field is perpendicular to the plane of the loop."

I don't understand this line of your reply sir. What do u mean by DOTH?
 
logearav said:
Sir, Thanks for the reply. I got it 80 % now, after re reading your reply. But one more doubt, that is, the second diagram shows F1 and F3 in upward and downward directions but in the first diagram, they are projecting outward to the sides of the loop. Why such a difference between the first and second diagram.

There isn't any difference. The first diagram shows you the loop from the side of the loop ,you are looking towards the yz plane. The second shows you the loop at the same time from above ,you are looking at the xy plane. The problem is that the first diagram makes F1 and F3 look like they are not perpendicular to the B field. This is not what happens, the forces are always perpendicular to the B field and the current.It is just a bad diagram with no axes. .

logearav said:
What do u mean by DOTH.
Sorry it was a typo,I meant "BOTH".
 
Thanks a lot sir. What a beautiful explanation! I wonder why my physics teacher does not know all these things. Thanks again sir.
 

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