What is the simplest explanation of how a transistor works?

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The discussion revolves around the operation of transistors, with participants seeking to explain their function in simple terms. The conversation touches on both theoretical aspects and historical context, including comparisons to vacuum tubes.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe a transistor as functioning like a valve, where a small current controls a larger current flow between two pins.
  • It is noted that in junction transistors, the base current allows electrons to diffuse into a thin base region, enabling conduction.
  • In field-effect transistors (FETs), the conductance is altered by the electric field in the depletion region, allowing a larger current to flow.
  • One participant mentions that the operation of transistors is fundamental to digital logic, specifically referencing the AND gate function.
  • There is a historical reference to vacuum tubes, with participants discussing their similarities to transistors and their past use in electronics.
  • Some participants clarify terminology, noting that "valves" is a term used in British English while "tubes" is more common in American English.
  • Discussion includes the audio quality differences between tube and transistor amplifiers, with some participants expressing preferences for the sound characteristics of tube amplifiers.
  • There are mentions of specific historical devices and personal experiences related to vacuum tubes and their applications in audio equipment.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the function and characteristics of transistors and vacuum tubes, with no clear consensus on the best explanation or preference for terminology. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing views.

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Participants reference historical devices and personal experiences, which may not be universally understood by all contributors. The discussion includes varying levels of technical detail and assumptions about prior knowledge.

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Just curious. For some odd reason, I don't seem to get it.
 
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How simple do you want?
In the simplest terms it acts like a (water/gas) valve - a small current into the base is used to control how much of a much bigger current flows between the other two pins.

In a junction transistor the base current provides electrons which diffuse into the thin electron poor base region and allow it to conduct.
In a FET the field in the depletion region changes it's conductance and allows a bigger current to flow.
 
mgb_phys said:
How simple do you want?
In the simplest terms it acts like a (water/gas) valve - a small current into the base is used to control how much of a much bigger current flows between the other two pins.
Perfect. Thanks.
 
That's why the glass things, used before transistors were invented, were called valves - because they worked exactly like a tap/faucet.

This is also the property that is used in a computer.
Power on main input + power on small input = power on output.
But power on only one of main pin / base pin = no output.
With just this operation, called an AND gate, you can make any other calculation
 
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mgb_phys said:
That's why the glass things, used before transistors were invented, were called valves - because they worked exactly like a tap/faucet.

"glass things" -- LOL. AKA "vacuum tubes" :smile:
 
Hey, Berkeyboy... remember when the neighbourhood gas stations and drug stores used to have vacuum tube testers so you could figure out why your TV wasn't working? :biggrin:
 
Danger said:
Hey, Berkeyboy... remember when the neighbourhood gas stations and drug stores used to have vacuum tube testers so you could figure out why your TV wasn't working? :biggrin:

I'm afraid so. I fixed a few friends' TVs using testers like that. Uh, thanks for the reminder about how "experienced" I am, Danger... :redface:
 
:smile::smile:
Don't worry, pal; I'm laughing at you, not with you. :biggrin:
 
berkeman said:
"glass things" -- LOL. AKA "vacuum tubes" :smile:
As mgb_phys correctly asserts, they are also commonly called "valves" (coined by Ambrose Fleming, abbreviation for http://www.marconicalling.com/museum/html/events/events-i=39-s=0.html). By the way, those valves work as perfectly today, as they did back in Danger's day.:wink:

I recently restored a broadcast receiver that uses several valves. It sounds great across the AM and SW bands and looks a lot like http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/bapix/Magnav1.htm .
 
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I described them as glass tubes because if the op didn't know how a transistor works they are unlikely to have heard of vacuum tubes.
Is valves only a British term - are they known as tubes in the US?
 
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mgb_phys said:
Is valves only a British term - are they known as tubes in the US?
That is my understanding..
 
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We Canuks recognize either term, although 'tubes' is far more common.
Most serious audiophiles pay a lot of extra bucks for a vacuum tube amplifier as opposed to a solid-state one. There's a bit of ambiguity to the signal processing that gives a really rich, warm texture to the music. Sometimes 'high-fidelity' can be too high and ruin the experience.
 
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Tube/Valve amps go into saturation in a very different way to transistors - so it makes a big difference with stage amps, especially 60s era guitar amps.
Sony used to make a redicoulsy expensive home theatre amp that used DSPs to simulate Valve amps - you could select the exact model of valve amp and it would distort in the same way. Pink floyd confirmed their nerd band image by designing a valve ADC pre-amp to record the CD of their last live album.
Of course it only applies to amps when they are in overload so a class A valve amp shouldn't sound any different to a transistor class A.
 
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Ouabache said:
As mgb_phys correctly asserts, they are also commonly called "valves" (coined by Ambrose Fleming, abbreviation for http://www.marconicalling.com/museum/html/events/events-i=39-s=0.html). By the way, those valves work as perfectly today, as they did back in Danger's day.:wink:

I recently restored a broadcast receiver that uses several valves. It sounds great across the AM and SW bands and looks a lot like http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/bapix/Magnav1.htm .

:yay: ooops, no :yay: smilie... ho hum.

That Magnavox has got a magic eye!

We had an old Murphy radio (a uk radio manufacturer long out of business, famed for various off the wall designs, like the single valve self oscillating line output on a tv) when I was a kid that had the same kind of magic eye.
 
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