What is the smart substitution for solving this integral?

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The discussion revolves around finding a suitable substitution for solving the integral \(\int \frac{dx}{1+x^{\frac{1}{4}}}\) and another integral \(\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{e^{2x}-1}} dx\). Participants explore various methods and substitutions in the context of integral calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of partial fractions and substitutions, with some expressing uncertainty about their approaches. Questions arise regarding the effectiveness of completing the square and the potential for simplifying the integral to a rational function. There is also a suggestion to use a specific substitution, \(u=\sqrt[4]{x}\), to facilitate solving the first integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding possible substitutions, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach. Participants are encouraged to clarify their methods and reasoning without providing complete solutions.

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Some participants express urgency in finding a solution, which raises concerns about the appropriateness of such requests within the forum's guidelines. There are also indications of confusion regarding the notation and steps taken in the integration process.

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Homework Statement



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[tex]\int \frac{dx}{1+x^{\frac{1}{4}}}[/tex]

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I tried partial fractions and substitution, did work.
Tried to do it with a contour integral didn't work.
please show all working.
 
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Do we split the integral by completing the square?
 
XtremePhysX said:
I tried partial fractions and substitution, did work.
Tried to do it with a contour integral didn't work.

Can you show us EXACTLY what you tried??

please show all working.

No, we will not. Read the forum rules. We will NOT provide you with a solution. You will have to find it yourself using our hints.
 
[tex]\int \frac{1}{(1+\sqrt[4]{x})^{2}-2\sqrt{x}}[/tex]
then partial fractions to split the integral but it got tedious and I am not sure if I am on the right track, i need the solution asap, please help me.
 
XtremePhysX said:
[tex]\int \frac{1}{(1+\sqrt[4]{x})^{2}-2\sqrt{x}}[/tex]
then partial fractions to split the integral but it got tedious and I am not sure if I am on the right track,

You can simplofy the integral to an integral of a rational functon

[tex]\int \frac{1}{1+\sqrt[4]{x}}dx[/tex]

by applying a substitution. Do you see an easy substitution that you can do?

i need the solution asap, please help me.

Please don't post stuff like this. If you want help fast, you should have posted sooner. It's not nice of you to push people like this.
 
micromass said:
You can simplofy the integral to an integral of a rational functon

[tex]\int \frac{1}{1+\sqrt[4]{x}}dx[/tex]

by applying a substitution. Do you see an easy substitution that you can do?



Please don't post stuff like this. If you want help fast, you should have posted sooner. It's not nice of you to push people like this.

No, not really.
What would you use as a substitution?
 
Take [itex]u=\sqrt[4]{x}[/itex]. After that substitution, it should be easy.
 
I think I was able to do it with a substitution.

[tex]\int \frac{1}{1+x^{\frac{1}{4}}} dx \\ $Let u^4=x $ \therefore 4u^3 du = dx \\ I=4 \int \frac{u^3}{1+u} du\\ = 4\int u^2-u+1-\frac{1}{1+u} du $ by long division or synthetic division $ \\ = 4 \int [\frac{u^3}{3}-\frac{u^2}{2}+u-\ln (u+1)]du = 4[\frac{x^{\frac{3}{4}}}{3}-\frac{x^{\frac{1}{2}}}{2}+x^{\frac{1}{4}}-\ln ( x^{\frac{1}{4}}+1)]+C[/tex]
 
[tex]\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{e^{2x}-1}} dx[/tex]

Can be done in about five easy lines with a smart substitution.

But I don't know what to use as a substitution, can you please help me?
 
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Do I let u=e^x?
 
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Well, just like above, get rid of the 'nasty' part, in this case, the exponential.
 
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XtremePhysX said:
I think I was able to do it with a substitution.

[tex]\int \frac{1}{1+x^{\frac{1}{4}}} dx \\ $Let u^4=x $ \therefore 4u^3 du = dx \\ I=4 \int \frac{u^3}{1+u} du\\ = 4\int u^2-u+1-\frac{1}{1+u} du $ by long division or synthetic division $ \\ = 4 \int [\frac{u^3}{3}-\frac{u^2}{2}+u-\ln (u+1)]du = 4[\frac{x^{\frac{3}{4}}}{3}-\frac{x^{\frac{1}{2}}}{2}+x^{\frac{1}{4}}-\ln ( x^{\frac{1}{4}}+1)]+C[/tex]

That last line doesn't make sense. You can't say

[tex]4\int u^2-u+1-\frac{1}{1+u} du= 4 \int [\frac{u^3}{3}-\frac{u^2}{2}+u-\ln (u+1)]du[/tex]

You're not taking the integral anymore in the right hand side. You should write

[tex]4\int u^2-u+1-\frac{1}{1+u} du= 4 [\frac{u^3}{3}-\frac{u^2}{2}+u-\ln (u+1)][/tex]

But anyway, the solution is correct!
 
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XtremePhysX said:
[tex]\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{e^{2x}-1}} dx[/tex]

Can be done in about five easy lines with a smart substitution.

But I don't know what to use as a substitution, can you please help me?

Please start a new thread for a new problem.
 

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