What is the Standard Deviation of the Mean for Lab Homework Data?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the mean current and standard deviation of the mean from measurements taken with different ammeters, highlighting the importance of error propagation when uncertainties are unequal. The mean current is found using a weighted average based on the uncertainties, while the variance is calculated using a specific formula that accounts for these varying uncertainties. Participants clarify that the uncertainties in the measurements should be treated as standard deviations, and the formulas provided for the mean and variance are deemed valid. There is a consensus that the approach to derive variances from error ranges is crucial for accurate calculations. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful consideration of how to handle measurement uncertainties in statistical analysis.
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Homework Statement



Using 5 different ammeters, you get the following data (all measured in Amps):
I_{A} = 128 ± 2
I_{B} = 121 ± 1
I_{C} = 114 ± 8
I_{D} = 120 ± 3
I_{E} = 122 ± 4

Calculate the mean current and the standard deviation of the mean.

Homework Equations



Standard Deviation of the mean: σ_{mean} = \frac{σ_{s}}{\sqrt{N}}

where σ_{s} is the standard deviation.

Quadrature sum for error propagation: Total Error = \sqrt{σ_{1}^{2} + σ_{2}^{2} + σ_{3}^{2} + ...}

Error propagation formula: σ_{p} = \sqrt{(\frac{\partial f}{\partial a})^2σ_{a}^2 + (\frac{\partial f}{\partial b})^2σ_{b}^2 + (\frac{\partial f}{\partial c})^2σ_{c}^2 + ...}, where p = f(a,b,c,...)

The Attempt at a Solution



To get the mean, I added all the data (using the quadrature formula, too) so I could divide by 5.

I got: \overline{I} = \frac{605 ± 9.6954}{5}

To divide that by 5, I used the error propagation formula and got: \overline{I} = 121 ± 2

To get the standard deviation, I would normally get the variance, σ_{s}^2 = \frac{1}{N - 1} \sum (y_{i} - \overline{y} )^2, and take the square root.

But subtracting and squaring each data point with the error propagation would require a lot of arithmetic, and that doesn't seem like the right path...

Is there something I'm doing wrong or an easier method to do this? Or do I just have to grit my teeth and do all the arithmetic...?

Thanks in advance.
 
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When the errors in the separate measurements are not equal, you do not use the usual equations for mean and standard deviation. Instead, the mean is given as
\mu \approx \frac{\Sigma (x_i/\sigma_i^2)}{\Sigma (1/\sigma_i^2)},
and the variance is
\sigma_\mu^2 \approx \frac{1}{\Sigma(1/\sigma_i^2)}.
 
tms, how would you calculate the σi values from error ranges? Do you assume the error ranges represent standard deviations, or do you take the ranges to represent uniform distributions and compute each s.d. on that basis? (The second sounds right to me.)
 
How would calculate the s.d. from a single number representing the distribution?
 
tms said:
How would calculate the s.d. from a single number representing the distribution?
I don't understand your response. Your advice (which seems reasonable to me) was to obtain a mean by taking a weighted average of the readings, where the weights are derived from the uncertainties in the readings. But in your formula you express those uncertainties as variances, whereas the given uncertainties are in the form ±error. I'm merely asking what procedure you regard as appropriate to derive the variances from the error ranges.
 
I was trying to be Socratic. You suggested assuming the \sigma_is represented uniform distributions and calculating the s.d.s from them. I was trying to suggest that the most reasonable way a single number could represent a distribution is if it were the s.d.

In fact, the \sigma_is are the uncertainties in the measurements. I should have made that explicit.
 
Just realized it makes no difference. So long as the error ranges are proportional to the s.d.s... Doh!
 
Thanks for the replies.

So what exactly should I do? Are the formulas tms posted correct?
 
tms' formula for the mean is certainly valid.
I'm not sure I understand the one for the variance. You have two indicators of variance: the individual error ranges and the scatter of the individual 'central' readings. But tms' formula only seems to involve the former.
 
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The derivation is in Bevington. Very briefly,
\sigma_\mu^2 = \sum \left[ \sigma_i^2 \left( \frac{\partial \mu}{\partial x_i }\right)^2\right].
When the uncertainties are unequal, evaluate the derivative using the equation for the mean given above.
 
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