What is the uncertainty in a squared quantity?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the uncertainty in a squared quantity, specifically D^2, where D is given as 5.160 +/- 0.01 cm. The initial approach used a formula that resulted in an absolute uncertainty of 0.004, which was questioned against an online calculator yielding 0.1. Clarification revealed that the correct formula involves applying the power rule for uncertainty, leading to a revised understanding of the calculation. Additionally, an alternative method using the uncertainty in multiplication formula provided a different result of 0.0729, suggesting it may yield a more precise uncertainty. The conversation concludes with an acknowledgment of the importance of using the correct formulas for accurate uncertainty calculations.
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Homework Statement



D= A +/-ΔA
D= 5.160 +/- 0.01 cm

D^2= 26.6 +/- 0.1 cm^2

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for the power rule uncertainty
:
A ((ΔA/A) + (ΔA/A) )
So then its (5.160)( (0.01/5.16)(2)) = 0.004

The Attempt at a Solution


im getting 0.004 as the absolute uncertainty but the uncertainty calculator i found online gives me 0.1 .
is my formula wrong?
 
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For the uncertainty as a result of a power in general, let Q = xn and δx be the uncertainty in x. Then
$$\frac{\delta Q}{|Q|} = |n| \frac{\delta x}{|x|}$$
In your case the power is n = 2 and x is a positive value, so that δQ becomes:
$$\delta Q = 2 x^2 \frac{\delta x}{x} = 2 x \delta x$$
Your formula A ((ΔA/A) + (ΔA/A) ) should have been A2 ((ΔA/A) + (ΔA/A) ).
 
gneill said:
For the uncertainty as a result of a power in general, let Q = xn and δx be the uncertainty in x. Then
$$\frac{\delta Q}{|Q|} = |n| \frac{\delta x}{|x|}$$
In your case the power is n = 2 and x is a positive value, so that δQ becomes:
$$\delta Q = 2 x^2 \frac{\delta x}{x} = 2 x \delta x$$
Your formula A ((ΔA/A) + (ΔA/A) ) should have been A2 ((ΔA/A) + (ΔA/A) ).

oh ok. so that is what i did wrong. I got it now. THANK YOU SO MUCH.!
 
To make this problem simple, see D² as D * D.

Well, the rule for finding the uncertainty in multiplication is Δw = √((yΔx)² + (xΔy)²), coming from w = xy. It's the simpler similar version of the formula other user uses.

Now, you try to use that formula.
 
NasuSama said:
To make this problem simple, see D² as D * D.

Well, the rule for finding the uncertainty in multiplication is Δw = √((yΔx)² + (xΔy)²), coming from w = xy. It's the simpler similar version of the formula other user uses.

Now, you try to use that formula.

using this equation, gives me 0.0729, whereas the previous one i used gives me 0.1032.
so, i can conclude that Δw = √((yΔx)² + (xΔy)²) formula gives me more precise uncertainty?
 
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