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The discussion centers on the academic level of "Elements de Mathématiques" by Bourbaki and "The Treatise on Analysis" by Dieudonné, suggesting that both are not strictly undergraduate or graduate texts. They are viewed more as encyclopedic works that present mathematics in an axiomatic framework rather than as traditional textbooks. The consensus is that while these texts are rigorous, they may not effectively teach the creative process of mathematics. Readers are encouraged to approach them with caution, as they might not be suitable for self-study. The conversation also touches on the value of reading other texts, such as Lang's "Undergraduate Algebra," before tackling Bourbaki, with some participants expressing that Lang's book is easier to read and could provide a solid foundation. Participants are invited to share their experiences with specific volumes of Bourbaki after selecting a subject area.
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What level(undergraduate or graduate) are the books Elements de Mathematiques by Bourbaki?Is good if I read it?If I like to read(undergraduate) then I must read following which order?(Eg first I must read book The Set theory).By the way,what about The Treatise on analysis by Dieudonne?
 
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Best is try to read and see for yourself if it is good for you or not. As to the level, I would say, no, they are neither undergrad nor grad level. Same for the Treatise, you can think of it as the analysis text Bourbaki never wrote. I personaly wouldn't recommend to study from those books.
 
I think one should consider them not as textbooks at all. It's more like an encyclopedia which puts math into an axiomatic framework. It's so-to-say the "final result" of a finished "mathematical edifice". I don't think that one can learn, how math is really done as a creative process.
 
I think because it is rigorous,it might be easy to read for self studying?
 
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I do not find them easy to read, but that's just me. How about you choose a subject and pick up a volume of Bourbaki on this matter? Tell us what the subject is and also what your impression of the style is.
 
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I will begin abstract algebra, so I choose Algebra chapter 1-3 by Bourbaki. I do not like Fraleigh, because it seems to me not very rigorous(is that correct?)
 
Alright, then come back here with your honest opinion on Bourbaki's Algebra.
 
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Is it good to read Undergraduate Algebra by Lang before reading Bourbaki(self studying)? Is the Lang's book easy to read?
 

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