What Went Wrong? Solving for X in an Inequality

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The discussion focuses on solving the inequality x^2 + x + 1 > 2, highlighting errors in the attempted solution. The incorrect factorization of x^2 + x - 1 as (x + 2)(x - 1/2) is pointed out, as it does not yield the original quadratic. Additionally, it emphasizes that both positive and negative products can satisfy the inequality, and mistakes were made in interpreting the conditions for x. The correct approach involves using the discriminant to find real roots rather than incorrect factorization. Overall, the thread stresses the importance of proper algebraic manipulation and understanding inequality conditions.
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Homework Statement



Solve for X

Homework Equations



x^2 + x + 1 > 2

The Attempt at a Solution



x2 + x - 1 > 0

(x + 2)(x - 1/2) > 0

x > 2
x > 1/2

Wolfram Alpha said that the solutions for X are:

x>1/2 (sqrt(5)-1)

and

x<1/2 (-1-sqrt(5))

what did I do wrong?
 
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jrdunaway said:

Homework Statement



Solve for X

Homework Equations



x^2 + x + 1 > 2

The Attempt at a Solution



x2 + x - 1 > 0

(x + 2)(x - 1/2) > 0

x > 2
x > 1/2

Wolfram Alpha said that the solutions for X are:

x>1/2 (sqrt(5)-1)

and

x<1/2 (-1-sqrt(5))

what did I do wrong?

Well, for one thing, your factorisation of x2 + x - 1 to (x + 2)(x - 1/2) is wrong.

You can see that by multiplying those factors together. They won't equal the original quadratic.

What's the discriminant of the quadratic?

The other error is in supposing that, if AB > 0, then A > 0 and B > 0 is the only solution. Don't forget that A < 0 and B < 0 is also a valid solution. Remember, if you multiply two negative numbers together, you get a positive.

Another mistake was going from x + 2 > 0 to x > 2. Shouldn't that be x > -2?

The last mistake was in the way you expressed your solution. Even though you considered the A > 0 and B > 0 case, you wrote the solution as x > 2, x > 1/2. Remember the "AND" condition. If x > 2 AND x > 1/2, you should simply "collapse" that solution to x > 2 (the bigger value) since everything that's bigger than 2 is also bigger than 1/2. Of course, 2 and 1/2 are wrong values for this question (as I mentioned earlier), but I'm using them to demonstrate the concept for you.
 
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jrdunaway said:
what did I do wrong?

Here is what you did wrong:
x2 + x - 1 > 0

(x + 2)(x - 1/2) > 0

(x+2)(x-1/2) = x2 + 1.5x - 1, not x2 + x - 1.
 
Why would you go trying to factor when all you have to do is bring the 2 to the left side and solve the equation (x^2+x+?=0) by finding the discriminant Δ and you'll get 2 real roots. Then go on from there.
 
Another method is to complete the square, getting p^2 > ...
 
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