What would happen if you fell into a black hole?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of falling into a black hole, exploring the physical effects on the body, the experience during the fall, and the nature of gravitational forces involved. Participants examine both theoretical and conceptual aspects of black holes, including gravitational fields and tidal forces.

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  • One participant questions what would happen to a body falling head first into a black hole.
  • Another participant claims that the body would not exist long before falling into a black hole.
  • A participant describes that a body would experience tidal forces that could pull it apart, with a rough estimate of discomfort occurring about 1/3 of a second before hitting the singularity, independent of the black hole's size.
  • Discussion includes the idea that for stellar black holes, discomfort is felt before crossing the event horizon, while for supermassive black holes, it is felt after crossing.
  • A hypothetical scenario is presented where a spaceship approaches a supermassive black hole, detailing the experience of weightlessness initially and the onset of tidal forces as one gets closer.
  • It is noted that tidal forces become significant at different distances depending on the size of the black hole, with smaller black holes causing discomfort much earlier than larger ones.
  • Participants discuss the visual experience while falling in, mentioning that light from outside can still be seen even after crossing the event horizon, although one cannot be seen from the outside.
  • Time taken to reach the singularity is estimated, with specifics provided for a million-solar-mass black hole and the implications of firing rockets during the fall.
  • Another participant suggests that the gravitational pull would differ significantly between the head and feet, leading to being ripped apart at the atomic level.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the experience of falling into a black hole, particularly concerning the effects of tidal forces and the timing of discomfort. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached on the specifics of the experience.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on various assumptions about black holes, such as their size and the nature of gravitational forces, which may affect the conclusions drawn. The discussion includes speculative elements regarding the experience of falling into a black hole.

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What would happen if you "fell" into a black hole?

Hi guys,

I ask this question partly because I am curious, but also because I am studying gravitational fields and forces at school currently.

So what would happen to your body if you were to "fall" head first into a black hole?
 
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Your body would not exist long before falling into a black hole.
 


wangdang said:
Hi guys,

I ask this question partly because I am curious, but also because I am studying gravitational fields and forces at school currently.

So what would happen to your body if you were to "fall" head first into a black hole?

Upisoft said:
Your body would not exist long before falling into a black hole.

Your body would experience a tidal force that would eventually pull your body apart. If you fell from rest far from a black hole, a rough calculation gives that about 1/3 of a second elapses between when discomfort is first felt and when the singularity inside the black hole is hit. This time is independent of the size of the black hole.

For black holes that form from stellar collapse, discomfort is felt before the event horizon is crossed (i.e., outside the black hole); for supermassive black holes that reside at the centres of galaxies, discomfort is felt after the event horizon is crossed (i.e., inside the black hole).
 


this is an interesting one from berkely cosmology department
Let's suppose that you get into your spaceship and point it straight towards the million-solar-mass black hole in the center of our galaxy. (Actually, there's some debate about whether our galaxy contains a central black hole, but let's assume it does for the moment.) Starting from a long way away from the black hole, you just turn off your rockets and coast in. What happens?

At first, you don't feel any gravitational forces at all. Since you're in free fall, every part of your body and your spaceship is being pulled in the same way, and so you feel weightless. (This is exactly the same thing that happens to astronauts in Earth orbit: even though both astronauts and space shuttle are being pulled by the Earth's gravity, they don't feel any gravitational force because everything is being pulled in exactly the same way.) As you get closer and closer to the center of the hole, though, you start to feel "tidal" gravitational forces. Imagine that your feet are closer to the center than your head. The gravitational pull gets stronger as you get closer to the center of the hole, so your feet feel a stronger pull than your head does. As a result you feel "stretched." (This force is called a tidal force because it is exactly like the forces that cause tides on earth.) These tidal forces get more and more intense as you get closer to the center, and eventually they will rip you apart.

For a very large black hole like the one you're falling into, the tidal forces are not really noticeable until you get within about 600,000 kilometers of the center. Note that this is after you've crossed the horizon. If you were falling into a smaller black hole, say one that weighed as much as the Sun, tidal forces would start to make you quite uncomfortable when you were about 6000 kilometers away from the center, and you would have been torn apart by them long before you crossed the horizon. (That's why we decided to let you jump into a big black hole instead of a small one: we wanted you to survive at least until you got inside.)

What do you see as you are falling in? Surprisingly, you don't necessarily see anything particularly interesting. Images of faraway objects may be distorted in strange ways, since the black hole's gravity bends light, but that's about it. In particular, nothing special happens at the moment when you cross the horizon. Even after you've crossed the horizon, you can still see things on the outside: after all, the light from the things on the outside can still reach you. No one on the outside can see you, of course, since the light from you can't escape past the horizon.

How long does the whole process take? Well, of course, it depends on how far away you start from. Let's say you start at rest from a point whose distance from the singularity is ten times the black hole's radius. Then for a million-solar-mass black hole, it takes you about 8 minutes to reach the horizon. Once you've gotten that far, it takes you only another seven seconds to hit the singularity. By the way, this time scales with the size of the black hole, so if you'd jumped into a smaller black hole, your time of death would be that much sooner.

Once you've crossed the horizon, in your remaining seven seconds, you might panic and start to fire your rockets in a desperate attempt to avoid the singularity. Unfortunately, it's hopeless, since the singularity lies in your future, and there's no way to avoid your future. In fact, the harder you fire your rockets, the sooner you hit the singularity. It's best just to sit back and enjoy the ride.
 
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the gravitational pull at your head and at your feet would be so different, even between every atom, you would be ripped apart into each of your different atoms :)
 

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