What's the speed of the ball 1 second after it was kicked?

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A soccer ball is kicked with an initial horizontal velocity of 15 m/s and an initial vertical velocity of 16 m/s, resulting in an initial speed of 22 m/s. The final speed after one second is calculated using the vertical acceleration due to gravity, leading to confusion over whether to consider average or instantaneous speed. The discussion highlights the need to separate horizontal and vertical components when calculating speed over time. Participants emphasize that gravity only affects the vertical component, and vector addition should be applied after determining the speeds at one second. The conversation underscores the importance of clarity in defining components of motion to accurately compute the ball's speed.
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Homework Statement


A soccer ball is kicked with an initial horizontal velocity of 15m/s and an initial velocity of 16m/s.
What's the speed of the ball 1 second after it was kicked?

Homework Equations


Initial velocity = sqrt([horiz. Velocity]^2 + [vertical Velocity]^2)

Final velocity = initial velocity + (gravity*time)

The Attempt at a Solution


Initial velocity = sqrt (15^2 + 16^2)
Initial velocity = 22m/s

Final velocity = 22m/s + (9.81m/s*1second)
Final velocity = 31.81 m/s
 

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You are confusing velocity with speed. "Gravity*time" acts on the vertical component of the velocity only, not on the speed.
 
Speed is distance over time.
I calculated that the distance traveled by the ball is (22sin (2*46.8))/ 9.81 = 49.24 meters

So after one second that the ball was kicked, speed = 49.24m / 1 second = 49.24 m/s
This is still incorrect
 
Melina said:
Speed is distance over time.
I calculated that the distance traveled by the ball is (22sin (2*46.8))/ 9.81 = 49.24 meters

So after one second that the ball was kicked, speed = 49.24m / 1 second = 49.24 m/s
This is still incorrect

Please explain your work. For instance, what angle are you taking the sine of?

Also we don’t want the distance over time, that gives an average speed. We want the instantaneous speed, I would assume.
 
I got 46.8 degrees from using the initial horizontal velocity: 15m/s and the vertical velocity: 16m/s.
Theta = tan^-1 (16/15)
Theta = 46.8 degrees
 
Melina said:
I got 46.8 degrees from using the initial horizontal velocity: 15m/s and the vertical velocity: 16m/s.
Theta = tan^-1 (16/15)
Theta = 46.8 degrees
Why arctangent? You said 16 m/s is the initial speed, not the vertical component.

Either way you don’t need to worry about angles. What is the vertical speed over time? What is the horizontal speed over time? So then what is each after one second?
 
Melina... In your attempt at a solution in #1 you are doing the vector addition to work out the speed too soon.

Try doing the vector addition after one second.
 
Melina said:
Final velocity = initial velocity + (gravity*time)
That is true as a vector equation, but later you applied is as though it were a statement about speeds. The 22m/s is not in the vertical direction, but the acceleration is vertical.
Nathanael said:
You said 16 m/s is the initial speed, not the vertical component.
That was an omission in post #1. The attachment says vertical.
 
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