When the nucleus of H atom is neutral?

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The discussion centers on the nature of the hydrogen atom and its nucleus. The nucleus of an atom, composed of protons and neutrons, cannot be neutral due to the presence of positively charged protons, while neutrons are neutral. A hydrogen atom consists of one proton and one electron, making it neutral. In contrast, a diatomic hydrogen molecule (H2) contains two protons and two electrons, which is also neutral. The conversation highlights the importance of context when discussing the neutrality of hydrogen, emphasizing that while the atom can be neutral, the nucleus itself cannot be. Clarifications are sought regarding the conditions under which hydrogen is being discussed, whether as a single atom or as part of a molecule.
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The nucleus of the H atom is neutral when it has two electrons and one proton (when forming a covalent bond) or it has one electron and one proton.
 
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Nucleus itself is never neutral.
 
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Borek said:
Nucleus itself is never neutral.
Could you tell me why, please?
 
What is the nucleus? What particles its it composed of?
 
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Borek said:
What is the nucleus? What particles its it composed of?
Protons and neutrons
 
HCverma said:
Protons and neutrons

What are charges of these particles? Any chance their combination can be neutral?
 
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Borek said:
What are charges of these particles? Any chance their combination can be neutral?
The charges of protons are positives and the neutrons have no charges. Yes, If neutrons would have had the same number of negative charges as protons have in the nucleus.
 
I'm sorry, you contradict yourself. Neutrons are neutral. They have no overall charge. If they did, they would not be neutrons.
 
Nik_2213 said:
I'm sorry, you contradict yourself. Neutrons are neutral. They have no overall charge. If they did, they would not be neutrons.
Now coming to the main point, the H atom is neutral when it has two electrons and one proton (when forming a covalent bond) or it has one electron and one proton?
 
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HCverma said:
Now coming to the main point, the H atom is neutral when it has two electrons and one proton (when forming a covalent bond) or it has one electron and one proton?
Context or situation is missing. Is the concern, how the Hydrogen atom is combined in a molecule? Is the concern, instead, just Hydrogen atom by itself, or Hydrogen, the diatomic molecule by itself?
 
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HCverma said:
Now coming to the main point, the H atom is neutral when it has two electrons and one proton (when forming a covalent bond) or it has one electron and one proton?
Can I make a new thread about the topic above? need suggestions.
 
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HCverma said:
Can I make a new thread about the topic above? need suggestions.
Maybe just give the clarification asked of you.

Hydrogen atom is what?
One proton and one electron.
Hydrogen atom, if exist that way, neutral.

Diatomic Hydrogen molecule is what?
Two protons and two electrons.
The diatomic molecule is neutral.

Something else? Describe the condition or situation and maybe one of the more expert members will discuss.
 
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HCverma said:
Now coming to the main point, the H atom is neutral when it has two electrons and one proton (when forming a covalent bond) or it has one electron and one proton?
sir from your point of view hydrogen atom is neutral but here question is about nucleus. Nucleus have protons and nucleus. Protons have positive charge whereas neutrons are neutral, so net charge is positive. That is why, nucleus of an atom can never be neutral.
 
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symbolipoint said:
Maybe just give the clarification asked of you.

Hydrogen atom is what?
One proton and one electron.
Hydrogen atom, if exist that way, neutral.

Diatomic Hydrogen molecule is what?
Two protons and two electrons.
The diatomic molecule is neutral.

Something else? Describe the condition or situation and maybe one of the more expert members will discuss.
Hydrogen atom is One proton and one electron.
Hydrogen atom, if exist that way, is neutral.
Diatomic Hydrogen molecule is two protons and two electrons.
The diatomic molecule is neutral.
 

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