Where Can I Find Real-Life Nerds Like Me?

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The discussion centers around the frustration of not being able to find like-minded "nerds" in real life, particularly among classmates who seem more focused on financial gain from their studies than on a genuine passion for science. The original poster expresses a desire for intellectual companionship and challenges, feeling out of place among peers who do not share interests in physics, gaming, or nerd culture. There is a suggestion that the demographic of nerds may be more prevalent in upper division classes, particularly in fields like physics and engineering, but less so in mechanical engineering. Participants discuss potential strategies for meeting more nerdy individuals, such as joining clubs related to science or technology. The conversation also touches on gender dynamics within nerd culture, with some noting that female representation in STEM fields is often lower, and that male nerds may sometimes exhibit behavior that objectifies women. The overall sentiment reflects a yearning for deeper connections with others who share similar intellectual interests and hobbies.
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Where are all the nerds??

I don't get to meet enough nerds, seriously. Where are the Sheldons, the Urkels, or the nerdy people in physicsforums IRL? Where are they in MY real life, anyway? Is this all an illusion and people like that don't actually exist? Because I never get to meet people like that IRL. I even can't relate to my classmates, they only seem to be studying mechanical engineering for cash, not to the greater goal of fathoming science (whereas I do).

So, I always find MYSELF to be the biggest nerd around! I want someone who can challenge my nerdiness, and I shall challenge his. How is it possible that all my Monkey Island/Hitchhiker's Guide references are only getting me a blank stare? Has how is it that nobody from my class played Diablo or WoW?!? It's ridiculous!

Should I just look better or just start lowering my standards to non-nerds?(btw
This what I expect from a nerd:

- To be big on physics/math/engineering, and have ambitions in the realm of science
- Not be a part of men's "chicks, beers and cars" culture
- Creative and inventive spirit
- Play computer games (not mandatory)
- Not to be too old for me, or too young (I'm 24)
- Have at least 1 weird hobby
- Enjoy using fancy words

))
 
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The median nerdiness definitely increases dramatically in upper division classes. Plus, the f/m ratio gets gooooood :smile:.
 


lisab said:
The median nerdiness definitely increases dramatically in upper division classes. Plus, the f/m ratio gets gooooood :smile:.

Not much for engineering though (at least Computer Engineering at my school).

I am pretty nerdy if I say so myself (people tell me that as well), but I haven't played Diablo nor WoW. I am not much of a person that plays a lot of games, but I am thinking of getting into them because they seem so cool...but I could be using that time to study or play guitar.
 
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Femme_physics said:
So, I always find MYSELF to be the biggest nerd around!
This is simply impossible. There is a forbidden nerd gap between men and women. The nerdiest level in the woman band is still way lower than the least neardiest level in the man band.

Your statement therefore violates accepted laws of physics . Please provide a peer-reviewed article that supports your assertion, or your post will be deleted as it does not meet the PF guidelines.

:biggrin:

(is that nerdy enough?)
 


It's mechanical engineering. I imagine inside the mechanical engineering department in my school is Big Foot II and a half disassembled diesel engine off a cruise ship. I never imagined mechanical engineers to be nerds. I think you're in the wrong field, come over to the dark side (hint: Sheldon is not a mechanical engineer).
 


Femme_physics said:
I don't get to meet enough nerds, seriously. Where are the Sheldons, the Urkels, or the nerdy people in physicsforums IRL? Where are they in MY real life, anyway? Is this all an illusion and people like that don't actually exist? Because I never get to meet people like that IRL. I even can't relate to my classmates, they only seem to be studying mechanical engineering for cash, not to the greater goal of fathoming science (whereas I do).

So, I always find MYSELF to be the biggest nerd around! I want someone who can challenge my nerdiness, and I shall challenge his. How is it possible that all my Monkey Island/Hitchhiker's Guide references are only getting me a blank stare? Has how is it that nobody from my class played Diablo or WoW?!? It's ridiculous!

Should I just look better or just start lowering my standards to non-nerds?


(btw
This what I expect from a nerd:

- To be big on physics/math/engineering, and have ambitions in the realm of science
- Not be a part of men's "chicks, beers and cars" culture
- Creative and inventive spirit
- Play computer games (not mandatory)
- Not to be too old for me, or too young (I'm 24)
- Have at least 1 weird hobby
- Enjoy using fancy words

))
I grew up near NASA. Every guy I met worked there, they were all aerospace engineers, or they trained astronauts, or were in some very geeky scientific specialty. It was good. There were also 50 men to every woman.

So, hang out near large concentrations of nerds. My best friend wanted to marry a doctor, so she went to a bar near the medical center. She married a neurologist.
 


Evo said:
My best friend wanted to marry a doctor, so she went to a bar near the medical center. She married a neurologist.

But but but! I thought you girls wanted a guy who was sensitive and funny and who listened and (yada yada). I thought money and status wasn't an issue. Now the truth comes out...

That's it. I'm leaving the situation and hanging myself with the celibate rope. Bust it! :smile:
 
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Evo said:
I grew up near NASA. Every guy I met worked there, they were all aerospace engineers, or they trained astronauts, or were in some very geeky scientific specialty. It was good. There were also 50 men to every woman.

So, hang out near large concentrations of nerds. My best friend wanted to marry a doctor, so she went to a bar near the medical center. She married a neurologist.

Shouldn't you also have gone for a doctor? o:)
 


rootX said:
Shouldn't you also have gone for a doctor? o:)
I should have, I went for funny, smart, nice and poor instead. I thought doctors were too full of themselves.
 
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caffenta said:
But but but! I thought you girls wanted a guy who was sensitive and funny and who listened and (yada yada). I thought money and status wasn't an issue. Now the truth comes out...

That's it. I'm leaving the situation and hanging myself with the celibate rope. Bust it! :smile:

Yah it's all a crock.

On an unrelated note, I'm single, sensitive, funny, and listen to yada yada.
 
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Pengwuino said:
On an unrelated note, I'm single, sensitive, funny, and listen to yada yada.

They don't care. Better start working on your MD and a get fat wallet. :-p

On an unrelated note, I'm a doctor and my wallet is so fat it goes to the gym!

I'm not an MD doctor, but they don't need to know that.
 
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I'd hate to go out of my way to meet a nerd, I am kinda hoping this happens around my circle. But yea, I guess mechanical engineering isn't really all that nerd-centered.

So, I've been seriously considering (not just for its nerds value) to change a field.

My top thoughts are:

1) Medical engineering (I have a meeting Monday to see what are my chances)
2) Electrical engineering (Because I love chips and artificial intelligence)
3) Software engineering (Always fascinated me)

Sadly computer engineering field is an impossibility for me due to far higher admission requirements, but if I could get in it'd probably top software engineering.
 
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Femme_physics said:
1) Medical engineering (I have a meeting Monday to see what are my chances).

Ha! Figures! :devil:
 
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caffenta said:
This is simply impossible. There is a forbidden nerd gap between men and women. The nerdiest level in the woman band is still way lower than the least neardiest level in the man band.

Your statement therefore violates accepted laws of physics . Please provide a peer-reviewed article that supports your assertion, or your post will be deleted as it does not meet the PF guidelines.

:biggrin:

(is that nerdy enough?)

YES! LOL, this is so turning on hehe. I got much more of a fetish than I thought! Damn it. Just makes me think more that I got the short end somehow in my circle.
 
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caffenta said:
Ha! Figures!

Oh, lots of girls there?
 
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Femme_physics said:
YES! LOL, this is so turning on hehe. I got much more of a fetish than I thought! Damn it. Just makes me think more that I got the short end somehow in my circle.
Words. Words that turn to bitter wax in my ears. You're too late sister. :-p
Femme_physics said:
Oh, lots of girls there?
See the above posts about doctors, starting from Evo's. That's really all you girls want, isn't it? And us PhD's aren't good enough. Only the guys with them stethoscopes are good enough.

:smile:
 
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caffenta said:
Words. Words that turn to bitter wax in my ears. You're too late sister. :-p

Humphf!

See the above posts about doctors, starting from Evo's. That's really all you girls want, isn't it? And us PhD's aren't good enough. Only the guys with them stethoscopes are good enough.

:smile:

Never! I'm not at all big on docs. I agree they're full of themselves. However, I really like engineering applications of medicine. That's different from MD's. I prefer PhD's.

Regardless, the above posts don't answer my question...but I'll make a new thread about it since I'm so curious.
 
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I'm just kidding, you know.
 
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Engineer can fix all the house
Doctor can fix all the body parts

That sounds like a nice combination :biggrin:
 
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Evo said:
I should have, I went for funny, smart, nice and poor instead. I thought doctors were too full of themselves.


Well, I guess they are!(well at least my experience says so)
I've been dating this cute doctor recently but I guess that doesn't work since I have to be very careful not to offend his feelings but he just doesn't care about my feelings that much.:rolleyes:
 
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Femme_physics said:
- To be big on physics/math/engineering, and have ambitions in the realm of science
- Not be a part of men's "chicks, beers and cars" culture
- Creative and inventive spirit
- Play computer games (not mandatory)
- Not to be too old for me, or too young (I'm 24)
- Have at least 1 weird hobby
- Enjoy using fancy words

What exactly do you mean by weird hobby? For instance, some of the things my fellow physics graduate students enjoy: board games, brewing beer, rock climbing, playing music, martial arts, hiking, gardening, and cooking. I wouldn't consider many of those "nerdy" but we're all definitely nerds on some level. The main thing that comes to mind is that 90% of my jokes don't seem to work around my non-physics friends.
 
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Like fishing and birdwatching, I consider it kinda weird unless you live a minute out of a lagoon. But perhaps it could also be "nerdy hobby" now that I think of it. Things more along the lines of Chess and D&D...
 
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Femme_physics said:
Like fishing and birdwatching, I consider it kinda weird unless you live a minute out of a lagoon.
Oh, that's what you mean by weird. Good thing I didn't reveal what my weird hobbies were then, because, uhm, never mind. :rolleyes:
 
  • #24


I think you're just going to the wrong school. Myself and all the fellas I associate with at school are exactly as you described in your OP.

- big on physics/math/engineering, and have ambitions in the realm of science.
We started a student org at my school entirely devoted to alternative energy where we build things like fuel cells and solar panels from scratch and teach others about alt energy as well
- not a part of men's "chicks, beers and cars" culture
Most nerds I know don't drink or chase girls, including myself
- Creative and inventive spirit
Goes without saying.
- Play computer games (not mandatory)
BFBC2 pwns.
- Not to be too old for me, or too young (I'm 24)
I'm 25, most nerds that I know at my school are 22-25
- Have at least 1 weird hobby
I'm into electronics and astronomy (I just got a 12" dob!). Other guys I know are really into fishing, linux, and hacking.
- Enjoy using fancy words
Thesaurus.com is bookmarked right below PF

My advice to you, transfer, because you're uni is obviously reprehensible (Thesaurus.com ftw!).
 
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LOL!

Yea, I'd like to transfer-- sadly I can't. I have to complete a huge amount of non-science related material that would take me years (Bible & history among others). Instead, I'm taking on a minor engineering degree in mechatronics that would also take years as well, but at least it's science and I find it very easy to study. There is only about 1 nerd in my class, who I sit next to all the time and is practically my best buddy there. He's kinda shut down in terms of emotions, kind of a stoic nerd guy, but terribly cute. Thin, glasses-wearing one. I make it a point to rub his shoulder every now and then when I pass around him. He doesn't seem to mind o:) But it's hard to get close to someone so... how do I put it... "in love with himself". Is that necessarily a nerdy quality? It's hard to deeply associate with people like that...but we joke around a lot and he's definitely one of my favorite people...
 
  • #26


That original post sounds like one of those too good to be true advertising scams. Since when do girls like any of those things :-p
 
  • #27


Femme_physics said:
I don't get to meet enough nerds, seriously. Where are the Sheldons, the Urkels, or the nerdy people in physicsforums IRL? Where are they in MY real life, anyway? Is this all an illusion and people like that don't actually exist? Because I never get to meet people like that IRL. I even can't relate to my classmates, they only seem to be studying mechanical engineering for cash, not to the greater goal of fathoming science (whereas I do).

So, I always find MYSELF to be the biggest nerd around! I want someone who can challenge my nerdiness, and I shall challenge his. How is it possible that all my Monkey Island/Hitchhiker's Guide references are only getting me a blank stare? Has how is it that nobody from my class played Diablo or WoW?!? It's ridiculous!

Should I just look better or just start lowering my standards to non-nerds?


(btw
This what I expect from a nerd:

- To be big on physics/math/engineering, and have ambitions in the realm of science
- Not be a part of men's "chicks, beers and cars" culture
- Creative and inventive spirit
- Play computer games (not mandatory)
- Not to be too old for me, or too young (I'm 24)
- Have at least 1 weird hobby
- Enjoy using fancy words

))

It might be useful to define a mathematical representation of nerdiness. I propose the Nerdiness Function, N(t), where N(t) \in \mathbb{C}^n*. Nerdiness is a function of time, and has both real and imaginary components. \Re(N(t)) is based on the binary logarithm of the arithmetic mean of one's scores (\bar{s}) plus one on the Nerd Test v2.0, and \Im(N(t)) is the scores one wished they had attained, or in other words the attitude toward being a geek/nerd with the same transformation applied. So,
N(t) := [\log_2(\bar{s})+1] + [\log_2(\bar{s}_{desired})+1]\mathrm{j}
Nerdiness is a function of time based on the time histories of score results of the Nerd Tests, with t_0 defined as the Unix epoch. So, if \dot{N} > 0, one is increasingly nerdy and the opposite for \dot{N} \leqslant 0. (E.g. N(t) for me would be 0.717 + 1j.)

Perhaps some statistical analysis and Monte Carlo simulations may provide some more information. Unfortunately, back-of-the-envelope Fermi estimates are made difficult in this case by the lack of decent numbers. (This was my conclusion when looking into using a version of the Drake equation to estimate the number of possible female engineering students I might find interesting. Parameters were either unattainable or unknowable from my frame of reference)

Sometimes, http://xkcd.com/55/" .


*Also, let's postulate that N is invariant under all linear transformations, if for no other reason than that I like that phrase.
 
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Zryn said:
That original post sounds like one of those too good to be true advertising scams. Since when do girls like any of those things :-p

Well, I do, I don't know and I don't care why they don't.

It might be useful to define a mathematical representation of nerdiness...

LOL. Nice...
 
  • #29


I agree, where are they, I like sciency nerds, cause I am the exact opposite...nothing more romantic than a guy explaining calculus to me, even though I won't understand a word of it!
 
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Aww, that's a disappointing attitude to have. My dream world is one where everyone learns at least a bit of calculus.
 
  • #31


The Big Bang Theory is bs, didn't you know. Most physics nerds I know had to be socially sophisticated as they were at the end of the day selling a service.

I am a Lord of the Rings Nerd and a physics Nerd, which makes me an uber nerd, bow before me peons.
 
  • #32


Femme_physics said:
Not be a part of men's "chicks, beers and cars" culture
Does not exist. Hell, it's given as one of the reasons for why there are so few women in many of the STEM fields. I've spent lots of time around geeks (engineering geeks, robotics geeks, linux user group geeks, tech meetup geeks, harry potter geeks, video game geeks, etc) and they're almost all into chicks and beer on some level. I know it can get kind of super awkward for a bit, but once you get over it and learn how to change the topic it gets better.
As for meeting nerds? Try clubs that do stuff (like robotics or SAE, or whatever club fixes cars at your school) and meetups and your local linux users group, and start talking to people. I found out that my lab is full of anime geeks through repeated convo, not 'cause they offered the info in the first place. Most people don't show up to school in a WoW t-shirt and all that jazz.

Since when do girls like any of those things
I do. *shrugs* Girls are human and all that jazz.
 
  • #33


story645 said:
I do. *shrugs* Girls are human and all that jazz.

You lie!
 
  • #34


Proportionately, the 'nerdy' type people are a very small percentage of our human personality types, thus, the population.

Male 'nerdy' (science) types tend to gather together, eg as someone pointed out, NASA, or research centres, wherever scientists can follow, develop, 'do' their 'work'.

Work being the operative word.

Female 'nerds' do not gather together quite as much.

If Mohammed will not go to the mountain, the mountain must come to Mohammed...
 
  • #35


Obi wonders how she can get herself from Australia to the Lunch Room at N.A.S.A every day. <.< >.< >.> *sigh*
 
  • #36
Obsidian222 said:
Obi wonders how she can get herself from Australia to the Lunch Room at N.A.S.A every day. <.< >.< >.> *sigh*

Easy peasy Obsidian:

http://www.csiro.au/

http://www.austehc.unimelb.edu.au/

Antarctic anyone? can't get any cosier?:smile:

http://www.eoas.info/biogs/A001611b.htm

Science with a political twist:

http://australia.gov.au/topics/science-and-technology/scientific-research

http://www.science.gov.au/

Pap smears for free?

http://www.newcastle.edu.au/research-centre/crs/

One of the key issues is getting into the science zone, somehow, someway, getting your profile out there, among those whom are so desirable to be with/around, they will generally speaking be engrossed in their work, their passion is science of one sort or another, (seriously what's not to love about the sciences?)...but it can become a 24/24 life, you challenge Winston/Winstonette is reach out.

It's all good.
 
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  • #37


And don't underestimate the brilliant abstract drawcard of cyberspace, (picking and choosing sites of course), but any abstract/science-ish site can be a place to meet likemindeds.

It's then up to you.
 
  • #38


So that's the answer then, go to one of these sciency meetings, and try and look intelligent, whilst my brain melts!
 
  • #39


How many frequent Pap Smear points does it take until you have enough points for the free trip to the NASA lunch room?
 
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Femme_physics said:
I don't get to meet enough nerds, seriously. Where are the Sheldons, the Urkels, or the nerdy people in physicsforums IRL? Where are they in MY real life, anyway? Is this all an illusion and people like that don't actually exist? Because I never get to meet people like that IRL. I even can't relate to my classmates, they only seem to be studying mechanical engineering for cash, not to the greater goal of fathoming science (whereas I do).

So, I always find MYSELF to be the biggest nerd around! I want someone who can challenge my nerdiness, and I shall challenge his. How is it possible that all my Monkey Island/Hitchhiker's Guide references are only getting me a blank stare?

I agree. The only other semi-nerd I know is my friend in my class Andrew. Otherwise I make jokes about math or physics (Like a funny Schrodinger's cat one) and no one, not even my semi-nerd friend laughs...I wish I knew someone who lived near me that was a good ol' science nerd, to joke with and contemplate the universe and things a normal person would hear and think I'm a nonsensical crazy dude talking about photons, which they think are sci-fi nonsense crazy things! *Breaths deeply in exhaust and anger*

Anyway, I agree... *sighs* (BTW HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy is awesome)
 
  • #41


So, who here laughs at "Let \varepsilon &lt; 0"?
 
  • #42


Obsidian222 said:
So that's the answer then, go to one of these sciency meetings, and try and look intelligent, whilst my brain melts!

What a way to go tho'!

Brain stimulus and all those sexy nerds around you.
 
  • #43


Zryn said:
How many frequent Pap Smear points does it take until you have enough points for the free trip to the NASA lunch room?

That can depend, if you link it purchases of feminine hygiene products and birth control it may run up quicker.

Alternatively ...what is their alternatively?

Thinking...
 
  • #44


jhae2.718 said:
so, who here laughs at "let \varepsilon &lt; 0"?

?

you have math in your brains.
You have waves all around.
And soon you will find
that oscillations abound.
You’re not on you own if you know what i know.
But you are the one who’ll learn how these waves go.

Waves go up and down sine curves, so graph them with care
though sometimes equations make life less hard to bear...

***(78)----3333$$$
 
  • #45


Steppn said:
What a way to go tho'!

Brain stimulus and all those sexy nerds around you.

*sigh* Ahhh yes, a ME paradise..
 
  • #46


Lazernugget said:
I agree. The only other semi-nerd I know is my friend in my class Andrew. Otherwise I make jokes about math or physics (Like a funny Schrodinger's cat one) and no one, not even my semi-nerd friend laughs...I wish I knew someone who lived near me that was a good ol' science nerd, to joke with and contemplate the universe and things a normal person would hear and think I'm a nonsensical crazy dude talking about photons, which they think are sci-fi nonsense crazy things! *Breaths deeply in exhaust and anger*

Anyway, I agree... *sighs* (BTW HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy is awesome)

Where are you from, Lazernugget?
 
  • #47


I just wanted to make another post to gently encourage the people here to pursue their dream of meeting 'nerds'. It may seem challenging, there may not be many around, (seemingly), they maybe reserved to interact with at times, but do it anyway.

There is a a communication level that some people have along an 'abstract' framework, there are many people that like to communicate in a 'concrete' type of framework...to meet and be with, discuss, with likeminded people/communicators is a good start.

Those that enjoy discussing theory, ideas, concepts, science-ish 'stuff'-are out there. They are amazing, intelligent, open minded, funny, sexy...life is way too short not to pursue the things you have an interest for/in.

It will be challenging and may take a while to meet these people but (my experience) it's worth it. It's like coming home to your own planet.

Just remember they tend to flock together, their personalities can be complex, (some) can be reserved in nature too.

But have fun with it. What has anyone to lose really...give it your best.
 
  • #48


Does your University have any societies?

Join astronomy or gaming? You should run into people in wider branches of physics, they do tend to be 90% men, at least in my experience.
 
  • #49


Femme_physics said:
Where are you from, Lazernugget?

The Santa Cruz Area... (California) We were hit by mini Tsunamis...recently...on the news...


BTW, an elements joke for you all.

2 Scientists walk into a bar. One says "I'll have some H2O" The other says "I'll have some H2O too" But the bar tender hands him H2O2, so that scientist dies. THE END
 
  • #50


And the sexy nerd thinks;

"I have no system for understanding this messy person in front of me"!
 
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