Where are the Best Destinations for Nanotechnology Excursions Outside Europe?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying potential destinations for nanotechnology excursions outside Europe, focusing on locations that offer relevant content in micro or nanotechnology. Participants explore various geographical options and the scope of what constitutes nanotechnology.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests Japan and the US (California or New York) as potential destinations for nanotechnology excursions.
  • Another participant questions the definition of "nanotechnology," noting its varied interpretations, which can range from biochemistry to consumer products.
  • A different participant clarifies that nanotechnology involves controlling matter on an atomic and molecular scale.
  • It is noted that while there are developed methods for working at the nanoscale, challenges remain, particularly below certain size thresholds, and much of the work is more chemistry-focused than physics-focused.
  • Participants express uncertainty about where nanotechnology is significantly advanced, with one humorously suggesting "femto-land" as a potential area of interest.
  • Another participant invites others to visit the London Centre for Nanotechnology to see scanning probe techniques in action.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on specific destinations or the definition of nanotechnology, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions regarding the field's scope and significance.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of nanotechnology and the specific criteria for selecting excursion destinations, which remain unresolved.

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Hi

I'm member of a group planning an excursion for nanotechnology students, preferably outside Europe. The trip will last three weeks, including five days with content relevant to micro or nanotechnology. Japan is an obvious alternative, the same is the US (maybe California or NY?), but are there other options?
 
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What do you mean by "nanotechnology"?
The word means different things to different people and is nowadays used to describe everything from biochemistry to deodorants.
 
Everything that involves controlling matter on an atomic and molecular scale.
 
That narrows it down quite a bit. We are still not very good at controlling matter at that scale; there are well-developed methods that work well down to a few tens of nm but below that you run into all sorts of problems.
Most of the work being done at the "real" nm scale is more chemistry than physics (and much of it has been around for a long time, they just didn't call it nanotechnology).
An obvious example would be "molecular motors" etc. There has also been some limited success controlling matter using scanning probe techniques (AFM and STM), that work is interesting but can not really be scaled up.

Don't get me wrong; work IS being done but it is still very much a small niche and it isn't really "huge" anywhere.
 
superwolf said:
Where is nanotechnology huge?
:smile: Like large-scale miniaturization?
 
f95toli said:
Don't get me wrong; work IS being done but it is still very much a small niche and it isn't really "huge" anywhere.


OK, but anyway we are going somewhere, so where is work being done?
 
jimmysnyder said:
:smile: Like large-scale miniaturization?

I was thinking, nanotechnology is huge in femto-land.
 
I'm in the london centre for nanotechnology, pop by. I'll show you my scanning probe
 

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