Which is the correct expression for the Differential Equation

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying the correct expression for the integral of the form ∫1t(s-1)y'(s) ds, with multiple answer choices provided. The subject area pertains to differential equations and integration techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of different answer choices and the reasoning behind the integration process. There is a specific inquiry about how to integrate without knowing the function involved, and a mention of integration by parts as a relevant technique.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the integration process and others providing clarification on the technique of integration by parts. There is acknowledgment of the original integral being expressed in terms of another integral, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the integral can be evaluated using integration by parts, and there is a reference to course material that may provide further context on this technique.

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Homework Statement


Which of the following is a correct expression for

1t(s-1)y'(s) ds

I know the answer is:

a) 1/2(t-1)2y(t)

b) 1/2(t-1)2y'(t)+ (t-1)(y(t)-y(1))

c) (t-1)(y(t)-y(1))

d) (t-1)y(t)-∫y(s) ds



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The Attempt at a Solution



I know the answer is d, but I don't understand why. Are they integrating the given equation, and if so, how do you integrate a function without knowing what the function is?

I have attached an image of the original question
 

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You can do integration by parts - the remaining integral is just an integral over y(s), and you can find that in answer (d). The other part can be evaluated without an integral.
 
Northbysouth said:

Homework Statement


Which of the following is a correct expression for

1t(s-1)y'(s) ds

I know the answer is:

a) 1/2(t-1)2y(t)

b) 1/2(t-1)2y'(t)+ (t-1)(y(t)-y(1))

c) (t-1)(y(t)-y(1))

d) (t-1)y(t)-∫y(s) ds



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I know the answer is d, but I don't understand why. Are they integrating the given equation, and if so, how do you integrate a function without knowing what the function is?

I have attached an image of the original question

You'll notice they didn't actually integrate it in choice d). The just expressed the original integral in terms of another integral. The technique is called 'integration by parts'. It should be described in your course.
 
I think I've got it now. It's been a while since I've done integration by parts. Thanks for the input.
 

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