Which Thermodynamics Book Offers the Most Comprehensive Coverage?

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The discussion centers around recommendations for comprehensive and clear textbooks on thermodynamics and thermal physics. Users express dissatisfaction with Shroeder's "Intro to Thermal Physics" for its lack of rigor and detail. Key suggestions include Kittel and Kroemer's "Thermal Physics" and Reif's "Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics," although some find Kittel and Kroemer's notation outdated. Landau and Lifshitz's "Statistical Physics Part 1" is mentioned as a more advanced option. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in distinguishing between thermodynamics, thermal physics, and statistical mechanics, as well as the desire for modern notations in textbooks. Adkins' "Equilibrium Thermodynamics" and Kestin's "A Course in Thermodynamics" are recommended for those seeking a more in-depth understanding, while Zemansky's "Heat and Thermodynamics" is noted as a classic but potentially less modern choice.
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I have used Shroeder's Intro to Thermal Physics but found it a bit non rigorous and uncomplete. It tries to cover every aspect of thermal physics in a non detail fashion. Does anyone know of any good thermodynamics book that covers the thermodymaics very completely and clearly?
 
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My suggestions would be either Kittel and Kroemer's Thermal Physics or Reif's Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics.
 
I second these recommendations.
 
las3rjock said:
My suggestions would be either Kittel and Kroemer's Thermal Physics or Reif's Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics.

The former looks a bit old with notations that seem too old and students these days not used to them.
 
Kittel/Kroemer looks old-fashioned compared to Reif?! :bugeye: My next suggestion would be Landau and Lifsh*tz's Statistical Physics part 1, but we're rapidly moving out of undergraduate territory and firmly into graduate territory.

Also, can you specify whether you want a thermodynamics book, a thermal physics book, or a statistical mechanics book? I know they sound like they're all the same thing, but there are subtle differences. My first two suggestions were for thermal physics, but I have some different suggestions if you're looking for thermodynamics.
 
las3rjock said:
Kittel/Kroemer looks old-fashioned compared to Reif?! :bugeye: My next suggestion would be Landau and Lifsh*tz's Statistical Physics part 1, but we're rapidly moving out of undergraduate territory and firmly into graduate territory.

Also, can you specify whether you want a thermodynamics book, a thermal physics book, or a statistical mechanics book? I know they sound like they're all the same thing, but there are subtle differences. My first two suggestions were for thermal physics, but I have some different suggestions if you're looking for thermodynamics.

Now having seen Reif, they both seem old fashioned. I am looking for an indepth thermodynamics book with newish notations.
 
Hmm, I'm not sure what new notations are. The notations used in the books, as well as in current papers on, e.g., non-equilibrium statistical mechanics, are pretty much unchanged from the days of Boltzmann and Gibbs.
 
For thermodynamics, I would recommend Adkins' Equilibrium Thermodynamics. Another book that has been mentioned in a different thread in this forum is Kestin's A Course in Thermodynamics. The classic introductory text is Zemansky's Heat and Thermodynamics, but it's probably not as modern as you would like.
 

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