Which Thermodynamics class to take?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice of a thermodynamics class for a physics major, specifically comparing courses offered by the chemistry and engineering departments. Participants explore the differences in content and focus between the two classes, considering their relevance to physics education.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the chemistry thermodynamics class is taken by chemistry and biochemistry majors, while the engineering class includes civil, naval, environmental, electrical, and computer engineering majors, raising questions about which would be more beneficial for a physics major.
  • Another participant shares their experience in a thermodynamics class coded for physics but actually aligned with engineering, highlighting differences in focus between chemists and physicists in thermodynamics topics covered.
  • One participant suggests consulting an academic advisor, indicating that this is a common dilemma for physics students.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of statistical mechanics in the curriculum, suggesting that if either class includes an introduction to this topic, it would be preferable.
  • There is a suggestion that the chemistry course may align more closely with a physicist's perspective on thermodynamics, although this is not universally agreed upon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on which course would be more beneficial, with some advocating for the engineering class and others suggesting the chemistry class might be more aligned with physics. There is no consensus on the best choice.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference their personal experiences with different thermodynamics classes, indicating variability in course content and focus. The discussion reflects a lack of clarity on how each course aligns with the interests and needs of physics students.

Who May Find This Useful

Physics majors considering thermodynamics courses, academic advisors, and students interested in the applications of thermodynamics in different scientific fields.

Christine90NY
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I'm a physics major and I have the option next semester to take thermodynamics in either the chemistry department or the engineering one.
The chem thermo class is taken also by chem and chembio majors and the engineering one is taken by civil, naval, environmental, electrical, and computer engineering majors. Which would be more beneficial for me and what's the difference between thermo applied to chem or applied to engineering?
 
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I'm taking a thermodynamics class right now, and even though its coded for the physics department, its actually a engineering class. They just call it phys 2H04 for the purpose of physics students, but its actually engphys 2H04. Our class i made up of engineering physics students, physics student, and mechatronics engineering students.

I think chemists and physicists are interested in different areas of thermodynamics. So far we have covered, statistical mechanics, internal energy and the 1st law, the 2nd law form the density of states and entropy views.

Probably want the one that's closer to that. I've actually taken a very basic chem thermo class last year that's actually for biochemists, the chem one is quite different, but what we are learning in the one I'm taking now is very different from the one I done last year.

Therefore you probably want the engineers one.
 
This is probably a question best answered by your advisor, since I'm guessing this is a problem every physics student at your school runs into.
 
If either of them does an introduction to statistical mechanics, take that one. If not, I'd say that the chemistry one will probably be closer to a physicists take on thermo.
 
will.c said:
If either of them does an introduction to statistical mechanics, take that one. If not, I'd say that the chemistry one will probably be closer to a physicists take on thermo.

I second this.
 

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