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Too young = lack of experience, particuarly in the wider world. One's OP makes some broad generlization based on a very limited sampling. One's OP belies the lack of experience.Sam_ said:Don't tell me I'm too young. So what? I've seen enough to make a conclusion and that's that. BTW, I am in college.
I know many female scientists and engineers (many with PhD's), and they are very interested in problem solving. They do research at universities, NASA, DOE, commercial and private companies (including mine), and many similar institutions throughout the world.
And such woman may not be interested in one, especially if one expresses such a negative attitude.As I said a female who has some degree in some scientific subject is NOT necessarily an intelligent female IMO. But someone who passionately likes to solve logical problems and make beautiful pattens from information and does this _outside_ of her profession is who I'm looking for. There are simply no such women that I have ever seen.
Feel free to provide a comprehensive list so support one's claim.And what about the society? Last I checked we live in 2008 when girls are portrayed smart (like Lisa Simpson) in media. Just look at how many quotas are set in various universities to fit more women into their programs. The list goes on...
Please provide examples.Yes there is discrimination for women in science, but it is a POSITIVE discrimination.
In some cases - yes! I know of such women.Defennder said:Are females ever discouraged by their family and peers from majoring in engineering and computer science? Personally I'm not aware of any such cases.
I had a professor who thought women and non-whites should not bother striving to be the best, and his attitude was an impediment to several colleagues and classmates.
I had an intelligent woman in one class I taught who seem to hold herself back, even though she was the best student.
Education, encouragement and support have to begin in earliest years for anyone to achieve high levels. Now some are inherently intelligent and don't need a lot of encouragement, but they still need support or access to learning materials. The vast majority of people need encouragement and more support.