Why DC series motor should not be started without load?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons why a DC series motor should not be started without a load. Participants explore the implications of starting such motors in various conditions, particularly focusing on the risks associated with overspeed and mechanical failure.

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  • Experiential anecdotes

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that starting a DC series motor without load can lead to a runaway condition due to low current and weak counter-EMF, necessitating higher speeds to balance the supply voltage.
  • Others emphasize the mechanical risks, noting that overspeed can cause physical damage to the motor, such as the armature wires being thrown out of their slots.
  • A participant shares a personal experience with a snowmobile starter that had a design preventing overspeed, highlighting the importance of mechanical safeguards.
  • Another participant recounts repairing an oversped starter motor, detailing the challenges faced and the modifications made to prevent future issues, including a built-in shunt field designed to mitigate runaway risks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the dangers of starting a DC series motor without load, particularly regarding the potential for overspeed and mechanical failure. However, there are varying perspectives on specific experiences and solutions related to this issue.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions reference anecdotal experiences with different motor designs and repairs, which may not directly apply to all DC series motors. The conversation includes personal accounts that highlight practical implications but do not resolve the technical concerns raised.

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Today a professor of mine who teaches Electrical machines told us that a DC series motor should not be started without load. I wonder why is that so. Please provide a detailed explanation of this PF members. Thank you very much in advance.
 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_motor#Series_connection said:
A series motor should never be started at no load. With no mechanical load on the series motor, the current is low, the counter-EMF produced by the field winding is weak, and so the armature must turn faster to produce sufficient counter-EMF to balance the supply voltage. The motor can be damaged by overspeed. This is called a runaway condition.
 
Never connect one to a load by a belt , either.
If your car starter fails to engage and you hear it speeding up, , release the key .

In a Runaway motor centrifugal force throws the armature wires out of their slots and they jam against the poles.

overspedDCmotor.jpg


electric car propulsion motor - the guy had gearbox in neutral and "put the pedal to the metal". .
 
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Once had a snowmobile that used a small v-belt that connected the starter to the flywheel. Naturally it finally broke. It wouldn't Rev high enough to destroy itself before even the slowest of mechanically inept would realize to release the ignition from the start position. What a tank that thing was. Not a piece of aluminum on it. Would sink like a rock in a pond.
https://www.google.com/search?q=joh...Xh6YMKHQUUC1IQ_AUIswQoAg#imgrc=O-CgEG7gkB1kDM:
 
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Once i had to fix the starter on an Opel Kadet that'd oversped and slung a few conductors.

Every generator shop in town told me "Sure, we'll rewind it for you just bring it in, won't cost much" but when they saw it said "Cant rewind that you got to buy a new one for two hundred fifty bucks"
Now in 1970 my salary was $801 a month. $250 was more than a week's wages !
So i replaced the chewed up conductors by soldering in new wires , carefully sanding the cut ends to matching oblique angles so as to increase surface area at the splice.
Then i wrapped the whole repaired area with fifty pound test dacron fishing line(tournament grade) .
Then i soaked it with marine spar varnish to surround the new conductors both insulating and locking them into the slots, and put it back together.
It worked perfectly for years. Cost was about a dollar for some #12 solid house wire.

Not long afterward i had occasion to take apart my 1962 Chrysler starter.
Found inside it a little shunt field that some practical minded engineer had designed into prevent runaway.
Sigh. Another unsung hero, that guy .

old jim
 
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