Why Do I Have Warnings at PF? - Explained

[jimmy p]

I have noticed that on my posts "jimmy p's warnings" have appeared, and on Zooby's posts, "zoobieshoe's warnings" have appeared. When I tried to access mine it wouldn't let me because I wasnt authorised. What is this about? What do I have warnings for? Why can't I see what I have done wrong?

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

haha it's for staff only!

we've implemented a warning system, when you get warned you'll receive an email telling you such. there are different warnings with different point values. total of 15 will get you banned for 2 weeks

 

[jimmy p]

Oh i see, like black marks and such.. or points on your licence. Ok, well I'm nearly perfect so I won't need to worry.

 

[jeff]

...we've implemented a warning system, when you get warned you'll receive an email telling you such. there are different warnings with different point values. total of 15 will get you banned for 2 weeks

I feel that members really should be kept abreast of the current list of infractions and their point values.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Yes Jeff, each time a member is warned they receive an email with the current warning and total point value they have accumulated.

 

[jeff]

I meant that the PF "criminal code" should be made available to all members.

 

[sol2]

Yes Jeff, each time a member is warned they receive an email with the current warning and total point value they have accumulated.

I have not receive one notifcation on any of these warnings until reading it now. So when did Zero start?



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okay I'll stop using simlies



Advertising Spam Post of personal gain 5
What can I gain? in our options its lists our URL sites respectively...should this be removed?

Double/Cross Post Spam Occurs when a user posts the same message in several forums 5
Advertisng spam is 5 so this makes sense here


Personal Attack Vulgar and or disrespectful nature towards another member 6

I would like just "one" example of this

Attachment/Link Violation Inappropriate attachments or links 6
I'll have to know what violations occurred so in the future

Crackpot Material Unscientific discussion in a science thread 7
Could you denote crackpot when it is assume to be? Out of 337 posts this is a hard ascertion to make?

Copyright Violation Posting of material that is copywritten

I always denote its source(images are not shown and appear only as url's), so how could I?

So is this 21 in anyone of these threads or all together?

Considering the type and style of infractions I guess from a personal standpoint it is time to reassess my future here.

I take back what I said about this program

 

[jimmy p]

Cant we just egg a perpetrator?

 

[chroot]

Part of me honestly feels this system is just not necessary, since we already have the report-to-moderator feature. We don't need 10 different ways to notify the staff, and I don't believe in automatic bans.

- Warren

 

[lethe]

Part of me honestly feels this system is just not necessary, since we already have the report-to-moderator feature. We don't need 10 different ways to notify the staff, and I don't believe in automatic bans.

I think implementing software controls to take over moderation from the moderators is fascist.

 

[chroot]

lethe,

While I don't identify such behavior with a particular political system, I agree with the sentiment that it's unnecessary and negative. I'd like to see a vote taken on this.

- Warren

 

[jimmy p]

I do think that you should be able to access your own warnings, eg, to see how much time before the points are revoked or whatever, and if the email is put in your junkmail automatically, then you could have warnings without knowing it.

 

[quantumdude]

The only thing I like about this system is that solves a particularly annoying problem, namely that so many "bad apples" decide to turn off the PM feature, so you can't send them a warning "man to man", like I would prefer.

 

[chroot]

I don't see that as a problem, Tom. When someone elects to prevent moderators from interacting with him, he's really just electing to be banned from the forum. If someone doesn't want to be warned once or twice for his behavior before being dealt with, that's fine. We won't warn him; we'll just deal with him.

- Warren

 

[quantumdude]

I don't see that as a problem, Tom. When someone elects to prevent moderators from interacting with him, he's really just electing to be banned from the forum. If someone doesn't want to be warned once or twice for his behavior before being dealt with, that's fine. We won't warn him; we'll just deal with him.

- Warren

Fine with me.

 

[sol2]

Fine with me.

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If this is a option, its sort of like a trick question if it can be used against you? I say remove the option and make it mandatory.

I readjusted my comments in previous post in this thread.

If the situations that have been highlihted can be responded too, I would appreciate it, as I do not want to be a nuisance here. If this is felt as a challenge to the system in place, then at a personal level would this raise ones moral stance in regards to the way in which these judgements can be used discrimminately??

As posters we are relying on impeccable behavior from the moderators. Is there no defense for us then?

 

[enigma]

I have not receive one notifcation on any of these warnings until reading it now.

You haven't received any warnings through the system.

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okay I'll stop using simlies

I think the 'smilies' note is for posts which are all - or mostly - smilies with no real content.

Advertising Spam Post of personal gain 5
What can I gain? in our options its lists our URL sites respectively...should this be removed?

No. You can leave your site in the profile. Contributors can even have a link or two in their signature. You can't post a thread specifically stating something along the lines of: "Come see my new website where I'm selling my new book!"

It may not seem as this happens often, but that's only because the moderators catch and delete them quickly. We get a few every week.

Personal Attack Vulgar and or disrespectful nature towards another member 6

I would like just "one" example of this

Uhm. Insulting someone's mother...

Attachment/Link Violation Inappropriate attachments or links 6
I'll have to know what violations occurred so in the future

Links or attachments containing pornographic material
Links or attachments containing gore
Links or attachments which install viruses or spyware
etc.

Crackpot Material Unscientific discussion in a science thread 7
Could you denote crackpot when it is assume to be? Out of 337 posts this is a hard ascertion to make?

This basically is a catch-all for people who post pet theories in the general fora. Even worse is people who post pet theories in the homework help section. At PF the general fora are for established science only. We have a Theory Development forum which is specifically for pet theories. They must be confined there.

Copyright Violation Posting of material that is copywritten

I always denote its source(images are not shown and appear only as url's), so how could I?

Then you've got nothing to worry about. Again, it may not seem like it happens because we usually catch the thread quickly, but every now and then, someone posts something copied-and-pasted from another website and claims it as their own. Since what is posted to PF is copyrighted, this can get us into trouble. "Fair use" quotations are fine.

So is this 21 in anyone of these threads or all together?

All together.
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All that being said, I'll throw my $0.02 in and agree that I think this is unneccessary for the most part. The moderators have records of all reported posts, and we do keep a close eye on the problem members.

The only reason we'd need it, as was mentioned previously, would be to inform those members who aren't receiving PMs that a post or behavior is inappropriate short of banning them.

 

[arivero]

Oh i see, like black marks

Er... as in Treasure Island? Do you live in Isla Tortuga or so?

 

[Monique]

Sol2: you haven't received any warnings, the point system you summed up is the scoring system used in case an offense is made.

 

[sol2]

Sol2: you haven't received any warnings, the point system you summed up is the scoring system used in case an offense is made.

Okay I get it. Thick as potates sometimes I think

Thanks all

 

[enigma]

I don't know how hard it'll be to code, but maybe there should be a line specifically stating that member 'XYZ' has no warnings.

I didn't realize that sol2 thought the list of potential infractions were personal warnings. If one member misreads it, I'm sure that many will.

 

[jimmy p]

Er... as in Treasure Island? Do you live in Isla Tortuga or so?

Argh Matey! actually, I thought that was what this was kinda like. 15 black marks and you are suspended. Kinda like the system in clubs and such, here on Isla Tortuga.