Why Do We Divide Both Sides in Formula Transposition?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of formula transposition, specifically focusing on the steps involved in rearranging equations to isolate a variable. Participants are examining examples of transposing formulas in physics and mathematics, including the manipulation of terms and the application of multiplication and division in the process.

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  • Participants discuss the rationale behind dividing or multiplying both sides of equations during transposition. There are questions about specific steps in the transposition process, particularly regarding the treatment of terms and factors. Some participants express confusion about the implications of multiplying or dividing by certain expressions and how they affect the equation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts at transposing formulas. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of terms and the correctness of steps taken in the examples. Multiple interpretations of the transposition process are being explored, particularly in relation to the handling of fractions and the cancellation of terms.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework assignments, which may impose specific methods or formats for presenting solutions. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions related to the operations performed on both sides of equations, particularly when dealing with like terms and factors.

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Hi,
formula transposition is basic but I have trouble in doing it sometimes. eg1 is the correct answer but why do we divide both sides by two??
Also I think I got eg2 wrong, my sense of multiplication and division is off.

S=UT+1/2at^2 make a the subject
* Deduct UT from both sides S-UT=1/2AT^2
*multiply both sides by 2 2(S-UT)=AT^2
*Divide both sides by t^2 A=2(S-UT)/T^2

EG2
L=N^2 X UA/ 1 make N the subject of the formula.
*divide both sides by UA N^2/1=L/UA
*multiply 1 N^2=L/UA X 1
*square the equation N=square root of L/UA X 1
 
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wewelsburg said:
Hi,
formula transposition is basic but I have trouble in doing it sometimes. eg1 is the correct answer but why do we divide both sides by two??
I don't see any division by two-- you multiply both sides by two to eliminate the factor of 1/2 premultiplying a.
Also I think I got eg2 wrong, my sense of multiplication and division is off.
2. looks fine to me. However, you have factors of 1 floating around which really don't need to be written. So, I would do 2. as follows:
[tex]l=n^2ua[/tex]
[tex]\frac{l}{ua}=n^2[/tex]
[tex]n=\sqrt{\frac{l}{ua}}[/tex]
 
Thanks Cristo.
 
Also, I have another transposed formulae with the right working and answer, but I've misunderstood some details.

Find Y
y/(y + x)+ 5=x
a) Multiply each side by y+x to get rid of the fraction
y+5(y+x)=xy+x^2
b) Multiply out of brackets
y+5y+5x=xy+x^2
c) Get all y terms on the left hand side of equation by subtracting xy
6y-xy+5x=x^2
d) Subtract 5x
6y-xy=x^2-5x
e) Divide 6-x to isolate y for final answer
y=x^2-5x/6-x

I don't understand step b) where we get a value of x^2. Because x(y+x) would give us x^2 + y, not another separate x value.
Also in all the tanspositions I have done so far if you use a figure on one side of the equation it cancels out on that sideof the equation (eg V=IR x R would cancel R out RHS) but in step a this doesn't happen. Is this because there are like characters on both sides of the equation (x and y)?
 
wewelsburg said:
Also, I have another transposed formulae with the right working and answer, but I've misunderstood some details.

Find Y
y/(y + x)+ 5=x
a) Multiply each side by y+x to get rid of the fraction
y+5(y+x)=xy+x^2
b) Multiply out of brackets
y+5y+5x=xy+x^2
c) Get all y terms on the left hand side of equation by subtracting xy
6y-xy+5x=x^2
d) Subtract 5x
6y-xy=x^2-5x
e) Divide 6-x to isolate y for final answer
y=x^2-5x/6-x

I don't understand step b) where we get a value of x^2. Because x(y+x) would give us x^2 + y, not another separate x value.
NO! x(y+ x)= x*y+ x*x= x^2+ xy, not x^2+ y.

Also in all the tanspositions I have done so far if you use a figure on one side of the equation it cancels out on that sideof the equation (eg V=IR x R would cancel R out RHS) but in step a this doesn't happen.
I don't understand what you mean by "use a figure on one side of the equation". If you want to solve V= IR for I, you must divide both sides of the equation by R: V/R= (IR)/R and now the two R's cancel:V/R= I.

Is this because there are like characters on both sides of the equation (x and y)?
It certainly did "happen". Multiplying both sides of the equation by x+ y "cancels" the denominator on the left: (y/y+x)(y+x)= y
 

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