Why does a human baby's vision invert?

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Discussion Overview

This thread explores the phenomenon of human baby's vision inversion, discussing the implications of "up/down" and "left/right" orientation as well as the effects of visual inversion on perception and coordination. The conversation includes theoretical considerations, experimental observations, and anecdotal experiences related to vision adaptation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the human eye functions similarly to a camera lens, projecting images upside down and backwards onto the retina, with the brain responsible for interpreting this information.
  • Others argue that gravity plays a role in determining "up" and "down," suggesting that perception of inversion could be context-dependent, such as in different gravitational environments like the ISS.
  • Several participants discuss experiments involving inversion glasses, noting that adults can adapt to inverted vision after training, but question how this applies to infants who may not have developed coordinated motor responses.
  • One participant shares personal experience using offset glasses in a lab, highlighting the complexity of integrating visual information with spatial orientation and body movement.
  • Some mention historical practices, such as typesetters and surveyors learning to read inverted or reversed images, suggesting that adaptation to visual inversion is a learnable skill.
  • A participant raises a question about the vision of individuals with cerebral palsy, proposing that their experience may provide insights into the phenomenon of vision inversion in infants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the nature of visual inversion and its implications, with no consensus reached on the mechanisms behind it or its effects on infants versus adults.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of definitive research on the existence of "upside down" vision in infants and the dependence on anecdotal evidence and personal experiences to support claims.

  • #31
teacherman said:
How about this little 1st grade girl who is really beginning to love reading and writing. She is at the top of the class and doing everything upside down (including her spelling tests) . Her mom is ecstatic.


She's happy...
Her parents are happy...
I'm happy...
My principal is happy...

Then the administration called me down to the office to tell me my methods were "not approved" and that I had to cease and desist in allowing the kids to do this. In fact, I had to force them not to do it or lose my job.

Your School management are clearly useless. Tell the parents to kick up a big fuss and to take it further. They can't sack the parents.
PS I wonder who does not 'approve' of your method. Is your School Administration answerable to a higher authority or are they autonomous?
 
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  • #32
sophiecentaur said:
But I'm not trying to 'explain' anything to this little boy. I am pointing out that there is no 'simple' explanation for the condition. The technical content of what I have written is appropriate to PF discussions. Yes, it's distressing that people can have this sort of disorder but what sort of response could one expect when a question is asked on a Physics discussion group?

Absolutely no need for an apology. If there is, then it's probably due from me. :smile:

Sophie,
This discussion group has been great and I'm glad I'm getting some answers.
You all may be "scientists" but you are all real human beings. I am appealing for help here - not only to figure out the "why" but to get people to realize that just because there are no "peer reviewed research papers" on PI, you can't simply ignore it. Simply allowing and encouraging these kids to do what comes natural could change thousands of lives.
Sorry for ranting...
Steve
 
  • #33
sophiecentaur said:
Your School management are clearly useless. Tell the parents to kick up a big fuss and to take it further. They can't sack the parents.
PS I wonder who does not 'approve' of your method. Is your School Administration answerable to a higher authority or are they autonomous?

Too late...
 
  • #34
There's a story that goes with
teacherman said:
Too late...


There's a long story that goes with this. I'll try to shorten it up...
The day that this video was uploaded it went viral. The local news (see below) came to my house and did a story on my resignation Arrangements twere made o come straight to the school where I tutored to do a story on my methods of working with dyslexic kids.Then...

Picture this...
The next day we are at the school with reporters and photographers . The principal is interviewed, the kids are interviewed, I'm interviewed again and the filming is going on all around us.
Suddenly all the reporters cell phones start going off. The next thing I know everybody is packing up and leaving.
Something more important had just come up... the Newton School Massacre.

My "viral" video slowed to a trickle. People lost interest and moved on... And thousands of kids go on struggling with reading acquisition simply because they are not allowed to hold their books differently.

Sad
 
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  • #35
teacherman said:
There's a story that goes withThere's a long story that goes with this. I'll try to shorten it up...
The day that this video was uploaded it went viral. The local news (see below) came to my house and did a story on my resignation Arrangements twere made o come straight to the school where I tutored to do a story on my methods of working with dyslexic kids.Then...

Picture this...
The next day we are at the school with reporters and photographers . The principal is interviewed, the kids are interviewed, I'm interviewed again and the filming is going on all around us.
Suddenly all the reporters cell phones start going off. The next thing I know everybody is packing up and leaving.
Something more important had just come up... the Newton School Massacre.

My "viral" video slowed to a trickle. People lost interest and moved on... And thousands of kids go on struggling with reading acquisition simply because they are not allowed to hold their books differently.

Sad
Yet again, the lunatic gun laws in the US appear to have caused suffering - but in an unexpected extra way.
 
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  • #36
sophiecentaur said:
Yet again, the lunatic gun laws in the US appear to have caused suffering - but in an unexpected extra way.

So true. And it's getting worse.
I'll try not to make any political statements. My message was (and still is) more important.
Please share it on social media so more than 1/2 million people get the message.
Thanks for your comments, Sophie
 
  • #37
Let's lighten things up again


Looks like they're having fun, doesn't it?
Steve
 

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