Why Does Adding an Opposite Point Charge Affect Electric Field Strength?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effect of adding an opposite point charge on the electric field strength at a point between two charges. Participants explore the calculations and reasoning behind the changes in electric field strength due to the presence of both positive and negative charges, focusing on theoretical and mathematical aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the electric field strength at the midpoint between two charges increases when an opposite charge is added, arguing that both fields contribute in the same direction.
  • Others challenge the exam solution, suggesting that the distance used in calculations should be half the separation distance between the charges, leading to different electric field strength values.
  • One participant calculates the electric field strength with the formula E = 2(kQ/(r/2)^2) and arrives at a value of approximately 2.88 x 10^11 N/C, supporting the student's reasoning.
  • There is disagreement regarding the correct electric field strength when an opposite charge is added, with some stating it should be 7.2 x 10^10 N/C while others contest this value, emphasizing the importance of the correct distance in calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of adding an opposite charge on electric field strength. While some agree with the student's calculations, others dispute the exam solution and the resulting electric field strength, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made about distances in the calculations, particularly the interpretation of the distance between charges and its effect on the electric field strength at the midpoint.

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I am having difficulty explaining this question to my student.

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His solution to part ii was (taking r to be the distance between the point charges) E = 2(kQ/(r/2)^2 due to the fact that you are measuring the field strength half way between the point charges.

So, E = 2 x (9E9 x 1.6E-19/(1E-10)^2) = 2.9E11 N/C

The solution given is

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This is the solution that is also given in the revision guide.

He cannot understand why adding an opposite point charge which provides a force in the same direction would mean the field strength goes down.


I can't give him an answer that satisfies. Can anyone help?
 
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Millsworth said:
He cannot understand why adding an opposite point charge which provides a force in the same direction would mean the field strength goes down.

The field strength at that point will go up, not down. (compared to the field strength at that point if only the positive charge was present.) Also, the distance from each charge to the point directly between them is 1*10^-10m not 2*10^-10m.

If I am reading the question correctly, I agree with your students answer:

There are two charges: [itex]Q_1=1.6\times10^{-19}C[/itex] [itex]Q_2=-1.6\times10^{-19}[/itex] separated by 2*10^-10m.

Therefore the point halfway between them is located 1*10^-10m away from each charge. Therefore [itex]r_1=r_2=r=1\times10^{-10}.[/itex]

The fields from each charge point in the same direction, so they add:

[tex]E=E_1+E_2=KQ_1/r_1^2 +KQ_2/r_2^2= \frac{2KQ}{r^2}[/tex]
 
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Thank you for your swift response

Are you saying that you think the exam solution is wrong?

Is my students answer correct?
Should the solution to ii be 2(kQ/(r/2)^2?
 
If only the positive charge was present E = 1.4x10^11 N/C

If opposite charge is added, OCR say E = 7.2X10^10 N/C
 
Millsworth said:
Is my students answer correct?
Should the solution to ii be 2(kQ/(r/2)^2?

Yes.

I've edited my above response to show my reasoning. Sorry it took so long. I had problems with LaTeX.
 
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Millsworth said:
If only the positive charge was present E = 1.4x10^11 N/C

This is correct.
If opposite charge is added, OCR say E = 7.2X10^10 N/C

This is wrong. Think about it. We are looking for the field at the center point. So, how far away from the center point is each charge? That is r.

[itex]r \not= 2\times10^{-10}[/itex]

[itex]r=1\times10^{-10}[/itex]
 
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If you label the separation of A and B as r, then the field midway between them is:

[tex]E=\frac{kq_A}{(\frac{r}{2})^2} + \frac{kq_B}{(\frac{r}{2})^2}[/tex]

Since qA=-qB, I'll call the magnitude of their charge q:

[tex]E=\frac{kq}{(\frac{r}{2})^2} - \frac{-kq}{(\frac{r}{2})^2} = \frac{2kq}{(\frac{r}{2})^2}[/tex]Using the given values of q and r:

[tex]E= \frac{2kq}{(\frac{r}{2})^2} = \frac{2(9\times 10^9~Nm^2C^{-2})(1.6\times 10^{-19}~C)}{(1\times 10^{-10}~ m)^2}=2.88\times 10^{11}~N/C[/tex]So your student was correct.
 

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