Why does dimensional regularization need counterterms ?

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The discussion centers on the necessity of counterterms in dimensional regularization, particularly in the context of quantum field theory. Participants explore the implications of poles in the Gamma function and the treatment of infinities in integrals, questioning the conditions under which dimensional regularization yields finite results.

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  • One participant questions the need for counterterms in dimensional regularization, arguing that since integrals are finite, only the limit as d tends to 4 introduces a divergent quantity that could be treated as a universal constant.
  • Another participant points out that certain integrals, like self-energy vacuum polarization, produce infinities that require consistent subtraction of infinite quantities across Feynman integrals, thus necessitating counterterms.
  • A participant emphasizes that the pole at d=4 is singular and suggests that defining the divergent quantity as a fixed experimental constant might suffice.
  • There is speculation about the implications of using a non-integer dimension, suggesting that if d were not equal to 4, dimensional regularization might yield finite results without poles in the Gamma function.
  • One participant references the MS or MS-bar subtraction scheme, noting that while infinities are removed, counterterms are still required.
  • Another participant mentions alternative regularization methods, such as zeta function and heat kernel regularization, while acknowledging the challenges posed by poles in these methods.
  • Further discussion highlights that the pole at s=1 in zeta function regularization is considered unphysical and can be circumvented by analytic continuation.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of counterterms in dimensional regularization, with no consensus reached on whether counterterms are essential or if alternative approaches could suffice.

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The discussion reflects various assumptions about the nature of infinities in quantum field theory and the mathematical properties of regularization techniques. Specific limitations related to the dimensionality of space and the behavior of the Gamma function are noted but remain unresolved.

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why does dimensional regularization need counterterms ??

if all the integrals in 'dimensional regularization' are FINITE why do we need counterterms ?? in fact all the poles of the Gamma function are simple hence the only divergent quantity is the limit as d tends to 4 of

[tex]1/(d-4)[/tex] which is ONLY a divergent quantity that could be 'absobed' or re-parametered as a divergent universal constant 'a'
 
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Several integrals like self-energy vacuum polarization produce infinities which can be written as functions of a cutoff. The only special thing about dim. reg. is that you do not use a cutoff in terms of mass or energy but that you get a pole in 1/(d-4).

If you have an infinite quantity you can write it as (finite quantity + infinite quantity), so that means that the calculation is ambiguous. The counter term ensures that the subtraction of all infinite quantities in all Feynman integrals of the theory is done consistently.
 


however the pole at d=4 is SINGLE , it will give only a divergent quantity in every integral proportional to

[tex]1/(d-4)[/tex] when d-->4 perhaps it would suffice to define the divergent quantity

[tex]a=1/(d-4)[/tex] to be 'fixed' by experiments

another question if dimension of our space was for example d=3.956778899797696969695.. instead of d=4 , since there would be no poles (gamma function is perfectly defined for negative numbers except when they are negative integers) would dimensional regularization give the CORRECT finite answer, that's it if the dimension was different from an integer , there would be no poles inside the Gamma function and everything would be OK
 


zetafunction said:
however the pole at d=4 is SINGLE , it will give only a divergent quantity in every integral proportional to

[tex]1/(d-4)[/tex] when d-->4 perhaps it would suffice to define the divergent quantity

[tex]a=1/(d-4)[/tex] to be 'fixed' by experiments

another question if dimension of our space was for example d=3.956778899797696969695.. instead of d=4 , since there would be no poles (gamma function is perfectly defined for negative numbers except when they are negative integers) would dimensional regularization give the CORRECT finite answer, that's it if the dimension was different from an integer , there would be no poles inside the Gamma function and everything would be OK

You should have a look at the MS or MS-bar subtraction scheme (MS = minimal subtraction). Indeed only the infinities are removed, but nevertheless counter terms are required.

I would not take the approach with varying dimension too seriously; it is simply a method to parameterize the infinities w/o breaking several invariances. If you use Hamiltonian methods with mode expansion other methods e.g. heat kernel or zeta function regularization are more appropriate. In that case you do not see any deviation from D=4.
 


thanks Tom i wil give these methods (Zeta regularization and Heat Kernel) a look, anyway zeta function regularization has the problem of a pole at s=1 [tex]\zeta(1)= \infty[/tex]
 


zetafunction said:
... anyway zeta function regularization has the problem of a pole at s=1

That's no problem. You introduce s just to regularize a kind of spectral- or Dirichlet series. The physical value is s=0, the pole at s=1 is unphysical. Then you continue the zeta function to s=0 avoiding s=1.
 

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