Why Does Spring Oscillate Horizontally?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a spring oscillating in a horizontal direction and the factors influencing this motion, particularly in relation to mass and twisting effects. The original poster seeks to understand why a spring can oscillate like a pendulum and how increased mass affects this behavior.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mass, twisting of the spring, and oscillation modes. Questions arise regarding the effects of mass on inertia and the frequency of oscillation, as well as the nature of forces acting on the spring and support.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the relationship between mass and oscillation characteristics. Some guidance has been offered regarding the concepts of torque and frequency, but there is no explicit consensus on the underlying mechanics or the implications of mass on oscillation.

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Participants are navigating complex concepts such as torsional oscillation, the role of external forces, and the effects of mass on oscillation amplitude and frequency. There are indications of varying interpretations of how these factors interact.

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I am asked to explain why an oscillation spring will eventually begin oscillating in the horizontal direction, i.e. become a pendulum, and I am asked why a mass that is too great will not become a pendulum.

I know the answer to the first part of the question. The spring has a natural tendency to twist when stretched. This twisting produces a small force in the sideways direction that adds to the amplitude of the side to side oscillation every time the spring is fully stretched. However, I am not sure why this effect is reduced or eliminated with increased mass. Is it because the heavier mass has more inertia and thus does not twist as easily?
 
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Careful ... twisting of the spring produces torque around a vertical axis,
but this is not really an external horizontal Force. It would result in a
significant "Torsional oscillation" if the torque / rotational inertia has
the same natural frequency of oscillation as the vertical oscillation mode. With care, these modes can be made to alternate (google "wilberforce").
If the mass is too light, vertical motion is too frequent to match the twist
but if the mass is too heavy the vertical motion is not frequent enough.

External horizontal Force (if that's what you want) is usually mostly
the flexing of the support rods. With too heavy a weight, the amplitude
of oscillation will be low (to NOT hit the floor); a slow frequency will make small variation in acceleration, so won't change the post flexure much
(what causes Work to be done by the post: not just F, but F dx !).
hope this helped
 
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I don't really understand how a slower frequency of the application of the sidways motion (i.e. bending of support) would prevent the pendulum motion. Even if it is slow, at certain masses, it will occur at such multiples of time that is adds to the amplitude of the side to side motion.
 
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And why would a greater mass cause the amplitude of the bending support to decrease?
 
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you have z(t) = A sin(wt) , with height variation 2A.

Now compute the acceleration function ...
what's the variation in the acceleration?
So what's the variation in the Force applied to the support?
Does it depend on angular frequency? does it depend on m?
 

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