Why Does the Integral of sin^2(x) Split into Two Separate Integrals?

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The problem involves finding the integral of sin²(x) and understanding the manipulation of the expression (1 - cos(2x))/2 into separate integrals. Participants are exploring the reasoning behind this transformation and the subsequent steps in solving the integral.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the factorization of the integral and question how (1 - cos(2x))/2 can be separated into two integrals. There are attempts to clarify the correct representation of the expression and the implications of factoring out constants.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing clarification regarding the steps involved in integrating sin²(x). Some participants are attempting to correct misunderstandings about the factor of 1/2 and the integration process, while others are sharing their own approaches and results, leading to a mix of interpretations.

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Participants express confusion over the integration by parts method and the handling of coefficients in the integrals. There are indications of mistakes made in earlier posts, which contribute to the complexity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


This problem is solved in my book however I don't totally understand it.

find the integral of sin^2 (x)

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/

the integral of sin^2 (x) = integral of (1-cos2x)/2 dx

= (1/2)x -(1/4)sin2x + C


I don't understand the las step basically how did the integra of (1-cos2x)/2 was changed into 2 integrals?

Was it done this way (1-cos2x)/2 = 1/2 (-cos2x) ?


Thanks a lot in advance.
 
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Actually, your last step is wrong... if you factor out the one half, you get this.

\int sin^2(x) dx = \int \frac{1-cos(2x)}{2} dx = \int \frac{1}{2} - \frac{cos(2x)}{2} dx

Which is solvable. Basically, your quote above...

Jimmy84 said:
Was it done this way (1-cos2x)/2 = 1/2 (-cos2x) ?

Should be...

Jimmy84 said:
Was it done this way (1-cos2x)/2 = 1/2 - cos2x/2 ?

See the difference?
 
Char. Limit said:
\int sin^2(x) dx = \int \frac{1-cos(2x)}{2} dx = \int \frac{1}{2} - \frac{cos(2x)}{2} dx

You actually could have just factored out the 1/2 like this:
\int sin^2(x) dx = \int \frac{1-cos(2x)}{2} dx =-\frac{1}{2} \int{cos(2x)} dx

It simplifies the integral.
 
Char. Limit said:
Actually, your last step is wrong... if you factor out the one half, you get this.

\int sin^2(x) dx = \int \frac{1-cos(2x)}{2} dx = \int \frac{1}{2} - \frac{cos(2x)}{2} dx

Which is solvable. Basically, your quote above...



Should be...



See the difference?



so it is the integral of 1/2 - (cos2x)/2

Now how can I find the integral of - (cos2x)/2 ?

I have been trying to solve that by parts but I had to solve for more than 4 integrals.
I choosed u= cos 2x dv = 1/2 dx du -sin2x dx v = 1/2 x
 
Jimmy84 said:
so it is the integral of 1/2 - (cos2x)/2

Now how can I find the integral of - (cos2x)/2 ?

I have been trying to solve that by parts but I had to solve for more than 4 integrals.
I choosed u= cos 2x dv = 1/2 dx du -sin2x dx v = 1/2 x

He made a mistake, he added an additional 1/2 into the integral. The simplified integral is just cos(2x).
 
:redface:

I made a little mistake my self.

It should be, [
\int sin^2(x) dx = \int \frac{1-cos(2x)}{2} dx =-\frac{1}{2} \int\frac{1}{2}-{cos(2x)} dx

The 1/2 couldn't have been factored out like that, I though it was multiplication. Sorry, if I mess you up.

Now that we have that established, the integral can be done like this.

\int\frac{1}{2} dx-\int{cos(2x)} dx
 
Stratosphere said:
:redface:

I made a little mistake my self.

It should be, [
\int sin^2(x) dx = \int \frac{1-cos(2x)}{2} dx =-\frac{1}{2} \int\frac{1}{2}-{cos(2x)} dx

The 1/2 couldn't have been factored out like that, I though it was multiplication. Sorry, if I mess you up.

Now that we have that established, the integral can be done like this.

\int\frac{1}{2} dx-\int{cos(2x)} dx

No problem, I am trying to solve for cos2x but I think I am doing something wrong the integrals that I solved gave me a messier problem.

Im doing u = cos2x dv = dx du = -2sen2x v=x

the result of that was x cos2x + the integrl of 2x sen2x and the result becomes messier when I try to solve for that. what am I doing wrong?
 
Jimmy84 said:
No problem, I am trying to solve for cos2x but I think I am doing something wrong the integrals that I solved gave me a messier problem.

Im doing u = cos2x dv = dx du = -2sen2x v=x

the result of that was x cos2x + the integrl of 2x sen2x and the result becomes messier when I try to solve for that. what am I doing wrong?

Stratosphere still doesn't have it right. There is a factor of 1/2 in front of the second integral. And to integrate cos(2x) just do the u-substitution u=2x. No need for parts.
 
Dick said:
Stratosphere still doesn't have it right. There is a factor of 1/2 in front of the second integral. And to integrate cos(2x) just do the u-substitution u=2x. No need for parts.

so it would be (1 - cos2x)/2 = 1/2 - (1/2) cos2x

Thanks a lot...
 
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Dick said:
Stratosphere still doesn't have it right. There is a factor of 1/2 in front of the second integral. And to integrate cos(2x) just do the u-substitution u=2x. No need for parts.

I did it out myself and I got the right answer. I didn't tell him that he had to add a constant of tow into the second integral and then balance it out with a 1/2 in front of it. I though he was suppose to solve it.
 
  • #11
Um, Stratosphere, I really did have the right answer the whole time... The integral you showed had \int cos(2x) dx with no coefficient of 1/2 in front of it. This isn't so. That coefficient needs to be there. If you multiply the inside integral by two, you need to divide the outside by two... To get a coefficient of 1/4 outside of the u-subbed integral.

I know my multiplication rules, and the distributive property needs to be applied. Both integrals are multiplied by 1/2.
 
  • #12
Char. Limit said:
Um, Stratosphere, I really did have the right answer the whole time... The integral you showed had \int cos(2x) dx with no coefficient of 1/2 in front of it. This isn't so. That coefficient needs to be there. If you multiply the inside integral by two, you need to divide the outside by two... To get a coefficient of 1/4 outside of the u-subbed integral.

I know my multiplication rules, and the distributive property needs to be applied. Both integrals are multiplied by 1/2.

Well, either way, I got the right answer my self, I don;'t really know how to explain it though.

And sorry about that, I make little stupid mistakes, (it was right when I woke up).
 

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