Why Does the Phase Shift Oscillator Frequency Drop with the TL072?

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the frequency drop observed in a phase shift oscillator when using the TL072 operational amplifier instead of an ideal op-amp. The frequency of oscillation decreased by approximately 15%, attributed to the TL072's finite gain and phase shift characteristics. Key factors include the op-amp's input impedance affecting the RC network and the parasitic phase shift introduced by the TL072. The analysis emphasizes the importance of understanding the op-amp's frequency response and the impact of feedback on phase shift in oscillatory circuits.

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  • Understanding of phase shift oscillators and their design principles.
  • Familiarity with operational amplifier characteristics, specifically the TL072.
  • Knowledge of PSpice simulation software for circuit analysis.
  • Ability to analyze transfer functions and phase shifts in RC networks.
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  • Investigate the frequency response and phase shift characteristics of the TL072 op-amp.
  • Learn how to model operational amplifiers in PSpice for accurate simulations.
  • Study the effects of feedback on phase shift and gain in oscillatory circuits.
  • Explore the derivation and application of transfer functions in phase shift oscillators.
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Electronics engineers, circuit designers, and students studying operational amplifiers and oscillator design will benefit from this discussion.

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rude man said:
The second loop is the feedback resistor around the op amp. It's a loop inside the major loop which you cite.
I think, speaking about two loops really will confuse the OP.
For my opinion, it makes not much sense to arbitrarily define an internal loop consisting of an opamp and a feedback resistor only.
Such a "loop" would have a loop gain of infinity (ideal opamp).
Remember: The oscillation condition for all 4-pole oscillators involves one single loop only.
Obviously - a simple visual inspection confirms that the phase shift oscillator topology consists of a single closed loop which contains a frequency-determining RC block in series with a finite gain inverting amplifier. This view reflects the principle of this oscillator type.

Comment: Even in case of the WIEN oscillator (where the combination of positive and negative feedback formally would allow a definition of 2 loops) it makes no sense to define two loops because the common approach using an ideal opamp would give infinite loop gain. Instead, the opamp with negative feedback is, of course, considered as a fixed-gain block.
Hence, we have again the classical single-loop oscillatory system.
 

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