Why Do Fathers Experience Premature Graying?

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The discussion centers around a father expressing pride and concern for his daughter's adventurous pursuits, including climbing and flying. Participants share light-hearted banter about the stress these activities cause, particularly the father's increasing gray hair. The conversation touches on the importance of teaching young people the difference between fear and danger, with references to risk assessment in military training. The daughter is noted for her accomplishments in flying, including passing her FAA written test and participating in aerobatics, which adds to the father's pride but also his anxiety. Humor is prevalent as they discuss the potential for her to take on even more extreme activities like skydiving. The thread concludes with shared experiences and reflections on parenting, highlighting the balance of pride and worry that comes with watching children pursue their passions.
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In my case anyway, this does:

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dlgoff said:
In my case anyway, this does:

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Well, at least she's using ropes and harnesses properly. Does that make you feel better? :biggrin:
 
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StatGuy2000 said:
Does that make you feel better?
Not really. She commented to a friend that said "Scary" where she replied, "If you know what you're doing it not; just fun." Being old, I know how being "over confident" can sometimes bit you. :oldcry:
 
Oooohhh...she's cute! (And see - now you have even more gray hair! :devil: )
 
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She's on belay. Do you trust her partner who is on belay?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Oooohhh...she's cute! (And see - now you have even more gray hair! :devil: )
She's my BABY! But I think I can trust you. :approve:
 
berkeman said:
She's on belay. Do you trust her partner who is on belay?
Hell, I don't even know her partner. Thanks for more gray hair. :oldgrumpy:
 
I think I would like to counsel kids coming up on that age to strive to know the difference between fear and danger. (Including my fear for their danger :cry:). One problematic conflation between the two occurs when the mind attempts to address fear not by recognizing fear as an aspect of the mind, but by pretending there is no danger via another aspect of the mind, confirmation bias ('I just survived a risk. See, accidents can't happen to me'). Confirmation bias is likewise something that can never be completely waived away, but is countered by constant checks, questioning of assumptions, and investigations of the mistakes of others.

To my mind, the military is unmatched at risk assessment in this regard, born of necessity I suppose, due to the nature of placing people purposely in danger, not for fun but for maximizing outcomes.
 
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I've gotten several more gray hairs lately. :oldcry:

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Congratulations on a job well done to you. Now watch more pictures like this and accumulate grEy hair :D
 
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I like her "I dropped my car keys" expression on the lower picture.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
I like her "I dropped my car keys" expression on the lower picture.
If that were me, I'd be dropping my lunch. :oldruck:
 
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Update on my hair. Much grayer now that my daughter has discovered ice. :oldcry:

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Wow! Am I ever glad that neither of my daughters ever discovered climbing. Both are now old enough to know better (which just means that it will now be their fault, not mine!). She is very pretty, but that does little to relieve the concern of a father.
 
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dlgoff said:
Update on my hair. Much grayer now that my daughter has discovered ice. :oldcry:

Looks like she's not in Kansas anymore...
 
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I went to visit my daughter and came home with more gray hair.

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Wow! Very brave! I can't imagine myself doing that.
 
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dlgoff said:
I went to visit my daughter and came home with more gray hair.

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I'm assuming this is boyfriend ?the geologist in me can't help but look at the nice tilted sediments in the background :smile:
 
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davenn said:
I'm assuming this is boyfriend ?
No. It's me.
 
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dlgoff said:
No. It's me.
Don't you see the gray hair?
 
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Count your blessings - she hasn't discovered skydiving yet.

(And if she is reading this thread... you have my deepest and most sincere apologies for this post)
 
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Nugatory said:
and most sincere apologies for this post)
Uh-huh, suurrreeee you do.:wink::wink::wink:
 
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dlgoff said:
No. It's me.
oops, sorry … but take it as a compliment for you looking younger than you are :biggrin:
 
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Nugatory said:
Count your blessings - she hasn't discovered skydiving yet.
If she ever does, can I get you to change "Gray" in the thread title to "White"?
 
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dlgoff said:
If she ever does, can I get you to change "Gray" in the thread title to "White"?
Any of the mentors can take care of that, upon receipt of satisfactory photographic evidence to support the change request.
 
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Nugatory said:
Any of the mentors can take care of that, upon receipt of satisfactory photographic evidence to support the change request.
Will do.
 
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Nugatory said:
Count your blessings - she hasn't discovered skydiving yet.

(And if she is reading this thread... you have my deepest and most sincere apologies for this post)
Update. She's starting flying lessons in August. Is skydiving next ...:oldcry:
 
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LOL, hang in there Don! :smile:
 
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dlgoff said:
Update. She's starting flying lessons in August. Is skydiving next ...:oldcry:
sorry buddy ... but, I just couldn't help but laugh, looking at the way this thread has progressed :biggrin:

fortunately my daughter inherited some of my fear of heights/falling ( self preservation) and she is very happy with just doing lots of mountain trail hikes
I was able to transition from black to grey and going on to white without any input from her :rolleyes:Dave
 
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davenn said:
sorry buddy ... but, I just couldn't help but laugh, looking at the way this thread has progressed :biggrin:
Don't be sorry. I laugh too, ... to stop the crying. :oldbiggrin: :devil:
 
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Don, relax. I work with a guy who ice climbs, and he's never had an accident in the years I've known him. (Well, there was a close call with a table saw... :wideeyed:)
 
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marcusl said:
I work with a guy who ice climbs, ...
My daughter lives in the Denver area and I see from your profile that you live in Bolder. Maybe they should hook up for a little ice climbing. :olduhh:
 
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Its actually loss of pigmentation in the hair not an actual "grey" (This is a science forum after all.)

I am terrified of heights.
 
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I work with a few recreational pilots, too. I could introduce her to someone who has almost finished building his own airplane, for a flying date après ice climbing!
 
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dlgoff said:
I see from your profile that you live in Bolder
If I may be so bold, the name of the city is Boulder.
pinball1970 said:
I am terrified of heights.
Me, I'm afraid of widths. (Steven Wright - "Whenever I think of the past, it brings back memories.")
 
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pinball1970 said:
Its actually loss of pigmentation in the hair not an actual "grey" (This is a science forum after all.)
You are so right. :bow:
 
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Mark44 said:
If I may be so bold, the name of the city is Boulder.
:doh: Hope you believe it was just a typo. :olduhh:
 
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Mark44 said:
If I may be so bold, the name of the city is Boulder.
Me, I'm afraid of widths. (Steven Wright - "Whenever I think of the past, it brings back memories.")

I am starting climbing to lose some width actually or should that be girth? Perhaps start off doing boulders, take it steady.
 
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pinball1970 said:
I am starting climbing to lose some width actually or should that be girth? Perhaps start off doing boulders, take it steady.
If you lose width, you'll probably also lose girth...
 
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Mark44 said:
If you lose width, you'll probably also lose girth...

I am actually much deeper currently than I am wider so that is not necessarily correct.

I need to lose in the Z co-ordinate far more than my x.

Having second thoughts that climbing is the answer, I have enough grey hair.
 
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Mark44 said:
If you lose width, you'll probably also lose girth...

pinball1970 said:
I am actually much deeper currently than I am wider so that is not necessarily correct.

Mark is correct … I suspect you didn't/don't know what girth is ? :wink:

A loss of width ( diameter) across the mid-rift WILL result in a loss of girth ( circumference) around the mid-rift
Something I seriously need to doDave
 
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davenn said:
Something I seriously need to do
Nah. Perfect girth IMO.
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davenn said:
Mark is correct … I suspect you didn't/don't know what girth is ? :wink:

A loss of width ( diameter) across the mid-rift WILL result in a loss of girth ( circumference) around the mid-rift
Something I seriously need to do

Dave

I know what girth is (!)... I am not spherical I am more like a pregnant lady

Some women can be enormous during the final weeks of pregnancy but you only tell this if you viewed from the front or side

I am more like that, I have well developed oblique muscles and fairly wide hips for my overall average build so there will be a very small reduction in width a large reduction in depth and an overall reduction in girth.

When I get round to it.

I am not posting a picture to illustrate it as I don't want to put people off using the site.
 
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dlgoff said:
Nah. Perfect girth IMO.
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Yes, something a little like this although we do not have an end elevation view to get my point.
 
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pinball1970 said:
I am not spherical I am more like a pregnant lady

yeah me too @ nine months for the last 5 years hahaha
dlgoff said:
Nah. Perfect girth IMO.

that was before the crap meds the specialists put me on ... tho they helped with the problem that they were treating,
but they have increased my already existing fluid retention problems and pushed me closer into T2 diabetes :cry::frown:

I would be thrilled to go back to looking like I did in that pic

Dave
 
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Nugatory said:
Any of the mentors can take care of that, upon receipt of satisfactory photographic evidence to support the change request.
Preliminary satisfactory photographic evidence. :oldcry:

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dlgoff said:
Preliminary satisfactory photographic evidence. :oldcry:

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It’s a very cool picture but that is because its someone else’s daughter.
 
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dlgoff said:
Preliminary satisfactory photographic evidence. :oldcry:

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That's so cool, Don …

Even tho you have a few extra grey hairs, you have to be incredibly proud of her
Congrats on her flying achievements. I have only had the controls of a light aircraft like that once.Dave
 
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davenn said:
That's so cool, Don …
Thanks Dave.
... you have to be incredibly proud of her
Yes. Really proud of her.
 
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