Why HCl is a much stronger acid than H2O?

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The discussion centers on the comparative acidity of hydrochloric acid (HCl) and water (H2O), exploring the reasons behind HCl's significantly stronger acidic behavior. Participants examine various factors including bond energies, ionic versus covalent character, and the role of conjugate bases in determining acidity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why HCl is a stronger acid than water despite similar bond energies and the higher electronegativity of oxygen compared to chlorine.
  • Another participant suggests that the size of chlorine and oxygen may play a role in their acidic strength.
  • It is proposed that HCl behaves more like an ionic compound when dissolved in water, while water is primarily covalent, leading to differences in ionization.
  • A participant raises the question of what contributes to the ionic nature of HCl compared to the covalent nature of H2O, mentioning the size of the atoms involved.
  • One participant argues that the strength of HCl and HF as acids is due to the weaker basicity of their conjugate bases (Cl- and F-) compared to OH-, which affects their dissociation constants.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of ion solvation (hydration) in the analysis of acid strength in aqueous solutions.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the explanations provided, suggesting that some responses merely restate the conclusion without offering deeper insight.
  • One participant recalls that the stability of the conjugate base is crucial for determining acidity, noting that Cl- is more stable than OH- due to charge distribution and bond strength considerations.

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Participants express a range of views on the factors influencing acidity, with no consensus reached on a singular explanation. Multiple competing perspectives are presented regarding the roles of bond energies, ionic versus covalent character, and the stability of conjugate bases.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the relevance of homolytic versus ionic dissociation energies, indicating that the discussion may depend on specific definitions and interpretations of acidity and ionization processes.

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I want to know why HCl is a much stronger acid than H2O.They have similar bond energies (H-Cl = 427 kJ/mol, O-H = 467 kJ/mol), so there should be easy to ionize both. Besides, O is more electronegative than Cl, so it should "steal" the electron easier. Why is HCl Ka so superior than water Kw?
 
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Consider the size of chlorine and oxygen
 
Consider what kind of bond each is. HCl is, at least when dissolved in water, ionic. H-OH is not mostly ionic, so ionizes only weakly.
 
Ok, O-H is more covalent than Cl-H, but what contributes for that? Why is HCl ionic and H2O covalent? Is it the size of O and Cl? F is also very small (smaller than O) and HF is still much stronger than H2O (the bond energy of HF is superior too).
 
HCl and HF are stronger acids than H2O because Cl- and F- are much weaker bases than OH-. Those bond energies you wrote refers only to homolitic dissociation: H-Cl --> H. + Cl. and not to ionic dissociation: H-Cl --> H+ + Cl-. Ionic dissociation energies are much different; looking for them you should find that OH- is much more reactive than Cl- or F- with H3O+, for this reason the dissociation costant of water is much lower.
 
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Also, to properly analyze the situation, you have to remember all processes involved take place in water, and ion solvation (hydration) plays crucial role.
 
Exactly, thanks for clafication (you have anticipated me :smile:).
Infact ion dissociation is favoured in a polar solvent as water.
 
Well I think the student should be a bit alert and critical.

It seems to me that #3 and 5 have just restated in different terms the fact that HCl is a much stronger acid than H2O, not explained it.

Though it is true that homolytic dissociation energies, if that is what the quoted figures are, are not relevant.
 
I remember my book stated that we should look at the conjugate base to determine the equilibirum. Even though O is more electronegative than Cl, Cl has a larger volume so the charge density is greater allowing the negative charge to be spread out. So this makes Cl- more stable than OH- as a result at equilibrium there is more Cl- and H3O+ than for water with OH- and H3O+. Furthermore, the HCl bond is weaker than the HO bond further attributing to the equilibrium favouring the forward reaction for HCl than for H2O.

I recall the H in OH- having an effect on the stability of the charge but I can't seem to recall it. Hope this helps.
 

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