Why is a current produced when shining light into LED

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of current generation in LEDs when exposed to light, particularly focusing on the relationship between the wavelength of the incident light and the LED's color. Participants explore theoretical aspects, practical implications, and related concepts in physics.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares their experience measuring laser power output using LEDs, noting a proportional current response.
  • Another participant suggests that the process is similar to the photoelectric effect, where photons provide enough energy for electrons to overcome potential barriers in the diode.
  • A question is raised about the impact of the LED's color on the current produced when exposed to different wavelengths of light.
  • Discussion includes examples of devices that can operate in reverse, such as motors becoming generators and speakers acting as transducers, highlighting the versatility of certain technologies.
  • One participant explains that the chemistry of the LED determines the energy required to move electrons, which correlates with the color of the emitted light, and discusses the efficiency of diffused versus non-diffused LEDs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding regarding the relationship between LED color and incident light wavelength. While some concepts are clarified, there remains uncertainty about the efficiency and implications of using different colored LEDs with specific light sources.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the efficiency of light interaction with LEDs can vary based on surface finish and intrinsic chemistry, but do not resolve the implications of these factors fully.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying semiconductor physics, photonics, or anyone curious about the operational principles of LEDs and their applications in technology.

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Right. Here's how it is, in the past I measured approximate laser power output using diffused LEDs of similar colour wavelength as the laser I was measuring. A multimeter across the terminals showed a current which was proportional to the power of the laser.

I once asked my physics teacher but I got an explanation way over my head. (It didn't sound simply like the photo electric effect ...or at least it didn't sound like it).

A few years on. I'm asking the same question...

Cheers.
 
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It's similair to the photo-electric effect. the photon gives the electron enough energy to get over the potential barrier in the diode.
An LED and a solar panel are the same thing, both (more or less) work both ways round.

It's sometimes a problem in surprising places. CCDs chips emit light from their amplifiers when you read them which is a real pain in astronomy applications and memory chips are light sensitive when they aren't encased in black plastic.
 
Ok that makes more sense... But of what consequence does the colour of the LED have in relation to the incident light source colour/wavelength.

Would shining a laser into a non diffused coloured LED (like those ultra bright ones) have still created a current?
 
You would be Amazed at how many things work in reverse. They often don't work very well though,( low efficiency). Here are only a few things that work "backwards":

1. DC motor can become generator

2. Speaker can become transducer

3. Black painted surfaces absorb heat, but also "radiate" heat better.

I'm sure others can chime in and add to the list

P.S. L.E.D.'s more or less,(not usually thought of for rectifier applications), is a DC device,(anode and cathode). I once saw a technician construct a piece of AC equipment. He used a L.E.D. as a power indicator on the 110VAC side. All he needed to do was to add an appropriate current limiting resistor.

I have seen L.E.D.'s used as power indicators on many DC applications, I found it interesting he had the L.E.D. "self rectifying" in a AC application. Obviously the "Diode" part of L.E.D was doing it's part
 
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transcendent said:
But of what consequence does the colour of the LED have in relation to the incident light source colour/wavelength.
The chemistry of the LED is tuned so that a particular energy is needed to move an electron across the junction - this gives a particular energy (colour) photon.
That's why red (low energy) LEDs were invented first and why it has been so hard to make (high energy) blue ones.

Would shining a laser into a non diffused coloured LED (like those ultra bright ones) have still created a current?
Diffuse is just the surface finish on the plastic case - the LED is the same. It would be less efficient because the diffuse surface would scatter most of the light.
Note the colour of the LED doesn't come from the colour of the plastic - it's intrinsic to the chemistry, the only reason for making red LEDs out of red plastic is aesthetic.
 

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