Why Is Friction Subtracted in Rotational Motion Calculations?

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In the discussion, a problem involving a rolling wheel is analyzed, focusing on the energy conservation principles. The key point is that the work done by friction should be subtracted from the potential energy gained when calculating the height the wheel reaches. This is because the energy lost to friction reduces the total mechanical energy available for conversion into potential energy. The correct equation reflects this relationship, leading to the conclusion that the work done against friction decreases the height achieved by the wheel. Understanding this concept is crucial for accurately solving rotational motion problems.
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Homework Statement


A 392N wheel comes off a moving truck and rolls without slipping along a highway. At the bottom of a hill it is rotating at 25.0 rad/s. The radius of the wheel is 0.600m and its moment of inertia about its axis of rotation is 0.800MR^2. Friction does work on the wheel as it rolls up the hill to a stop, a height h above the bottom of the hill; this work has absolute value 3500J. Calculate h.


Homework Equations



KE = (1/2)MV^2 + (1/2)(Icm)(W^2)

Principle of Conservation of energy

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did is use the fact that the sum of the translational and rotational kinetic energies at the bottom of the hill should be equal to the gain in the potential energy PLUS 3500J which is the work done against friction.

In other words,

(1/2)MV^2 + (1/2)(Icm)(W^2) = mgh + 3500.

However, the correct answer is obtained if in the above equation, 3500 is subtracted from mgh rather than added.

Can someone please explain why this is so. Subtracting makes no sense. It would simply mean that more the friction, h is greater since (1/2)MV^2 + (1/2)(Icm)(W^2) +3500 is greater then (1/2)MV^2 + (1/2)(Icm)(W^2) -3500.

Thank-you for your assistance.
 
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you're right.

"(1/2)MV^2 + (1/2)(Icm)(W^2) = mgh + 3500. "

is the correct equation...
 
Thanks!

Thanks for the re-assurance!:biggrin:
 
mit_hacker said:
Thanks for the re-assurance!:biggrin:

no prob. :)
 
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