Why is the curl of the magnetic field zero in a vacuum?

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The discussion centers on the condition that the curl of the magnetic field is zero in a vacuum, as described by Ampere's Law. It highlights that in regions without currents and with static fields, the curl of the magnetic field can indeed be zero, which aligns with Maxwell's equations. Participants express confusion about how a magnetic field can exist without a corresponding electric field, especially when currents are present elsewhere. The conversation clarifies that static currents, such as those from a battery or permanent magnets, can create a magnetic field without generating an electric field in the vacuum. Ultimately, the key point is that in a vacuum with no local currents, the magnetic field can be static and still satisfy the condition of zero curl.
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In the wikipedia page for guiding center,the following lines are written about curvature drift of charged particles.
The expression for the grad-B drift above can be rewritten for the case when \nabla B is due to the curvature. This is most easily done by realizing that in a vacuum, Ampere's Law is \nabla\times\vec{B} = 0. In cylindrical coordinates chosen such that the azimuthal direction is parallel to the magnetic field and the radial direction is parallel to the gradient of the field, this becomes
<br /> \nabla\times\vec{B} = \frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial}{\partial r} \left( r B_\theta \right) \hat{z} = 0 <br />
Sincer B_\thetais a constant, this implies that
<br /> \nabla B = - B \frac{\vec{R}_c}{R_c^2} <br />
and the grad-B drift velocity can be written
<br /> \vec{v}_{\nabla B} = -\frac{\epsilon_\perp}{q} \frac{\vec{B}\times \vec{R}_c}{R_c^2 B^2} <br />

My problem is the part that tells curl of B is zero in a vacuum.
Although I know Maxwell equations permit such a situation(with \vec{B}=\vec{B}(\mbox{only space variables}) \ and \ \vec{E}=0),I don't understand how that can happen.
Obviously a current has caused the existence of the magnetic field and so there should be a changing electric field.But there is no electric field and that seems strange to me.
I'll appreciate any ideas.
Thanks
 
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Maxwell's equation relates curl of B to density and to the time derivative of E. If you are in a region that as no currents (i.e., away from wires) and the fields are static (no time variation), then curl B = 0.
 
Well,I know that.
The problem is, how can the electric field be static when there is a current?(I know that we're assuming no current at the point we're calculating the curl of B at.But a current elsewhere produces a changing electric field everywhere.)
 
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The current can be static--a DC current from a battery, for instance. Or there may be no current at all, as when the magnetic field in your source-free region arises from a permanent magnet. Either way, J=0 in the vacuum and \frac{\partial \mathbf E}{\partial t}=0.
 
Somewhere should be sources of the magnetic field. In the static case you have
\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{H}=\vec{j}+\frac{1}{c} \vec{\nabla} \times \vec{M},
where \vec{M} is the magnetization of your permanent magnet. Of course, everywhere else, the curl vanishes, and there you can have locally a potential. Other than the elecric field a magnetic field can never be globally a gradient field!
 
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