Why is the molar specific heat of carbon so different from the predicted value?

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The discussion centers around the molar specific heat of carbon, specifically why its measured value (6.1 J/mol·K) differs significantly from the predicted value based on the Dulong-Petit law (approximately 25 J/mol·K). The conversation explores theoretical, empirical, and temperature-dependent aspects of specific heat in relation to carbon and other materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why the molar specific heat of carbon deviates from the predicted value of 3R, suggesting that the high energy vibrational modes are not populated at room temperature.
  • It is noted that specific heat is temperature-dependent, although some argue that deviations are often considered insignificant.
  • One participant emphasizes that at low temperatures, the heat capacity must approach zero, and the definition of "low" temperature can vary.
  • Another participant points out that the Dulong-Petit law applies under the assumption that all quadratic degrees of freedom are populated, which may not hold true for carbon at room temperature due to quantized vibrational modes.
  • There is a suggestion that while theoretical determination of molar specific heat capacity may be challenging, empirical methods or computational approaches could be used.
  • A participant mentions that the specific heat approaches the Dulong-Petit limit at high temperatures, with room temperature being relatively low for diamond, as indicated by its high Debye temperature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of temperature dependence in specific heat and the applicability of the Dulong-Petit law to carbon. There is no consensus on a definitive explanation for the observed values or a universally accepted method for determining molar specific heat capacity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the temperature dependence of specific heat and the assumptions underlying the Dulong-Petit law, particularly in relation to the quantization of vibrational modes in solids.

Suraj M
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why is the molar specific heat of carbon(=6.1JMol-1K-1) so different from the predicted value of 3R≈25??
 
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Is the specific heat independent of temperature?
 
DrClaude said:
Is the specific heat independent of temperature?
strictly speaking it does depend on temperature, but is often ignored due to the insignificance of the deviation.
 
Suraj M said:
strictly speaking it does depend on temperature, but is often ignored due to the insignificance of the deviation.
The deviation is far from insignificant, as at low temperature the heat capacity has to go to zero. And what can be called "low" temperature is very relative. At room temperature, carbon (be it diamond or graphite) is far from the asymptotic limit given by the Dulong-Petit law.
 
Yes but why?? carbon and even Beryllium don't go by the Dulong Petit law for specific heat(molar) to be 3R. at room temp.
Everywhere they say, 'due to their high energy vibrational modes not being populated at room temperature' ?
 
Suraj M said:
Yes but why?? carbon and even Beryllium don't go by the Dulong Petit law for specific heat(molar) to be 3R. at room temp.
Everywhere they say, 'due to their high energy vibrational modes not being populated at room temperature' ?
The Dulong-Petit law works if you can apply the equipartition theorem, that is if all quadratic degrees of freedom have an average energy ##\langle E \rangle = k_B T / 2##. Since vibration is quantized, this can only be the case for the vibrational modes if there is enough energy to significantly populate excited states. Some solids have such a high threshold that you need to go very high temperatures before you have sufficient excitation and can neglect the discrete (quantized) aspect of vibrational energy.
 
Oh okay, now i get it. So then, is there any way to find the molar specific heat capacity of carbon, theoretically ??
 
Suraj M said:
Oh okay, now i get it. So then, is there any way to find the molar specific heat capacity of carbon, theoretically ??
Not that I know. You can do it empirically, by finding a function that fits the observed heat capacity, or computationally.
 
ohh! okay, thank you for your help.
 
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The specific heat goes to the Dulong-Petit limit at "high temperature".
You can think in terms of room temperature not being a "high temperature" for diamond. This is suggested for example by the value of Debye temperature, which is over 2000 K. For metals the same value is just a few hundred K.
 

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