Why is the trace of jacobian=the divergence?

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The discussion explores the theoretical connection between the trace of the Jacobian matrix and the divergence of a vector field. Participants examine the mathematical background and implications of this equality, touching on concepts such as invariants of the Jacobian and coordinate independence.

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  • One participant asks for an intuitive justification of why the trace of the Jacobian equals the divergence of a vector field, noting its relation to volume flow rate.
  • Another participant provides a proof that connects the Jacobian to the divergence, explaining that the trace of the Jacobian matrix corresponds to the sum of the partial derivatives of the vector field components.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of invariants of the Jacobian, such as the trace and determinant, as they are coordinate independent and represent the function without interference.
  • There is a clarification regarding the terminology of "coordinate independent" and "independent of the coordinate system," with a request for further explanation on the phrase "represent the function without interference."
  • One participant elaborates on the distinction between coordinate-dependent and coordinate-independent derivatives, providing an example that illustrates potential confusion arising from coordinate choices.

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Participants express differing views on the terminology and implications of coordinate independence, and there is no consensus on the interpretation of certain phrases related to the representation of functions.

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Some statements rely on specific mathematical definitions and assumptions that may not be universally accepted or understood, particularly regarding the implications of coordinate independence and the interpretation of derivatives.

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What is the theoretical connection intuitively justifying that the trace of the jacobian=the divergence of a vector field? I know that this also equals the volume flow rate/original volume in the vector field but leaving that aside, what is the mathematical background behind establishing this equality?
 
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Are you asking for a proof? The proof is trivial (it follows immediately from the form of the jacobian). Let ##U\subseteq \mathbb{R}^{n}## be open and let ##F:U\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^{m}## be differentiable at ##a\in U##. Then the matrix representation of the total derivative of ##F## at ##a##, in the standard basis ##S##, is given by ##(DF(a))_{S} = (\frac{\partial F^j}{\partial x^i}(a))##. We call this matrix representation the jacobian of such a map. Hence ##Tr(DF(a))_{S} = \sum\frac{\partial F^{i}}{\partial x^{i}}(a)##. Thus if ##X:U\subseteq \mathbb{R}^{3}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^{3}## is a vector field and ##a\in U##, ##Tr(DX)_{S}(a) = \frac{\partial X^{1}}{\partial x^1}(a) + \frac{\partial X^{2}}{\partial x^2}(a) + \frac{\partial X^{3}}{\partial x^3}(a) = (\nabla\cdot X)(a)##.
 
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Well the Jacobian it the derivative of the function in the f:V->V senses. So any other derivative can be found from it, in particular we like invariants of the Jacobian including the trace and determinant as they are coordinate independent and as such represent the function without interference.
 
lurflurf said:
in particular we like invariants of the Jacobian including the trace and determinant as they are coordinate independent and as such represent the function without interference.

I think you meant "the trace and determinant are independent of the coordinate system".

Could you please explain the meaning of "represent the function without interference"?
 
coordinate independent and independent of the coordinate system mean the same thing, but coordinate independent is shorter and sounds better. By "represent the function without interference" I mean that sometimes one uses coordinate dependent, but when one does she must always consider what is caused by the function and what is caused by the coordinate system. A condition must be considered in terms of the coordinates. A simple example if we define a derivative (x^2f)' the condition f'=0 becomes ((x^2f)'-2xf)/x^2=0 when might cause confusion.
 

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