Why is this calculation of the enthelpy of combustion wrong?

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The discussion centers on calculating the enthalpy of combustion for a 1.250 g sample of C8H18 burned in a bomb calorimeter. The heat transferred to the calorimeter was calculated as 60.1 kJ, but confusion arose regarding the sign of the change in internal energy (ΔU) and how it relates to the enthalpy of combustion (ΔH). It was clarified that while the heat transferred to the calorimeter is positive, the heat of combustion should be expressed as a negative value since combustion is exothermic. The correct approach involves dividing the negative ΔU by the number of moles to find the heat of combustion. The final calculation should yield the accurate enthalpy of combustion.
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Homework Statement


A 1.250 g sample of ##C_8H_18## is burnt with excess oxygen in a bomb calorimeter. Change in temperature is from 294.05 K to 300.78 K. If heat capacity of the calorimeter is 8.93 kJ/K. Find the heat transferred to the calorimeter. Also calculate the enthalpy of combustion of the sample of octane.

Homework Equations


##q_v = \triangle U = C \times \triangle T##
##\triangle H = \triangle U + \triangle n_{(g)}RT##
##C_8H_{18} (s) + {25\over 2}O_2 \longrightarrow 8CO_2(g) + 9H_2O(l)##

The Attempt at a Solution


I use the first equation to find ##q_{transferred}= (300.78 - 294.05) \times 8.93 J = 60.1 kJ##
Since combustion is exothermic, Thus ##q_{transferred} = 60.1 kJ##.

Since this reaction is carried the volume is constant but pressure isn't.

Since ##-q_{transferred} = \triangle U = -60.1 kJ##
Now enthalpy of combustion is ##\triangle H = \triangle U + \triangle n_{(g)}RT##

##\triangle n_{(g)} = (8 - 12.5) \times {1.25 \over 114}##

Since ##-q_{transferred} = \triangle U = -60.1 J## for exothermic reactions

##\therefore \triangle H = -60.1 + 8.314 \times 294.05 \times (8 - 12.5) \times {1.25 \over 114} \times 10^{-3}##
Which i got from calculator as ##-60.221 kJ##.

Now my second answer is incorrect.

In the solution ##\triangle U## is taken positive and ##\triangle_{combustion} H = {\triangle U \over \text{number of moles}}##

I don't understand the reasoning behind taking ##\triangle U## positive as combustion is exothermic and thus heat is evolved, which by convention means that we need to get -ve sign in the answer.
For ##\triangle H## calculation by the author, I don't even have a clue how they did that.
 
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Did you say that you got the heat transferred to the calorimeter correct?
 
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Chestermiller said:
Did you say that you got the heat transferred to the calorimeter correct?

Yes as per the book. I think it should be -ve but, I am not sure.
 
Buffu said:
Yes as per the book. I think it should be -ve but, I am not sure.
Well, the heat transferred to the calorimeter is positive. The heat transferred to the reaction mixture is negative.

You correctly determined the change in enthalpy of the reaction mixture in the experiment. But, the heat of combustion, is defined as the change in enthalpy per mole. So you need to divide by the number of moles to get the heat of combustion. And, your interpretations regarding sign of the heat of combustion as minus the enthalpy change are correct.
 
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Chestermiller said:
Well, the heat transferred to the calorimeter is positive. The heat transferred to the reaction mixture is negative.

You correctly determined the change in enthalpy of the reaction mixture in the experiment. But, the heat of combustion, is defined as the change in enthalpy per mole. So you need to divide by the number of moles to get the heat of combustion. And, your interpretations regarding sign of the heat of combustion as minus the enthalpy change are correct.

So all I need to do is ##-60.221\over ({1.25 \over 114})## to get the correct answer.
Thank you very much.
 
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