Why is vacuum energy assumed to be uniform?

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The discussion centers around the assumption of uniformity in vacuum energy throughout space, particularly in the context of its measurement within the Milky Way's gravity well. Participants explore the implications of this assumption, especially in relation to the differing predictions of quantum mechanics (QM) and general relativity (GR) regarding vacuum energy density.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the assumption of uniform vacuum energy, noting that all energy gravitates and asking if there is a way to know if vacuum energy varies across space.
  • Another participant mentions the concept of quantum field vacuum energy being zero due to normal ordering, referencing external material for clarification.
  • A different participant asserts that there is currently no reason to believe vacuum energy would differ throughout space.
  • One participant suggests that the question of vacuum energy uniformity is more suited for the Cosmology subforum.
  • It is proposed that if gravity is to be quantized, the differences in vacuum energy density between QM and GR could be significant.
  • A participant draws an analogy between vacuum energy and the salinity of seawater, suggesting that over billions of years, vacuum energy would likely equalize across vast distances.
  • Another participant states that vacuum energy cannot be measured locally, as its value is too small to detect directly, and that evidence for its value comes from distant astronomical observations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the uniformity of vacuum energy, with some asserting it is reasonable to assume uniformity while others question this assumption. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the differences between QM and GR.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in measuring vacuum energy locally and the dependence on astronomical observations for evidence, indicating that assumptions about uniformity may not be fully substantiated.

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Considering that all energy gravitates, why is it assumed that the vacuum energy that we measure inside the gravity well of the Milky Way is consistent throughout space? Is there any real way to know? Would it make any difference in the problem that QM and GR differ in the vacuum energy density by many orders of magnitude?
 
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newjerseyrunner said:
why is it assumed that the vacuum energy that we measure inside the gravity well of the Milky Way is consistent throughout space?
Because so far there is no reason to think that it might be different
 
newjerseyrunner said:
Considering that all energy gravitates, why is it assumed that the vacuum energy that we measure inside the gravity well of the Milky Way is consistent throughout space? Is there any real way to know?
That's a question for the Cosmology subform.
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newjerseyrunner said:
Would it make any difference in the problem that QM and GR differ in the vacuum energy density by many orders of magnitude?
Yes, if we believe that gravity should be quantized too.
 
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Blame it on Boltzmann, he's the wise guy who decided discrete values of things should follow a basic statistical distribution when gathered in sufficiently large numbers. In the case at hand it is entirely analogous and reasonable to think of vacuum energy as equivalent to the salinity of sea water. How much variance would you expect at various locations in the vast ocean of space? It has had billions of years to equalize.
 
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newjerseyrunner said:
Considering that all energy gravitates, why is it assumed that the vacuum energy that we measure inside the gravity well of the Milky Way is consistent throughout space? Is there any real way to know? Would it make any difference in the problem that QM and GR differ in the vacuum energy density by many orders of magnitude?
We can't actually measure vacuum energy locally at all: its value (if non-zero) is far too small to detect directly. Our only evidence for the value of vacuum energy stems from Observations of galaxies and other structures many millions to billions of light years away.
 
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