Why Measure the Center of Mass from the Same Position After a Collision?

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The discussion centers on the necessity of measuring the center of mass (COM) from the same reference point before and after a collision. It emphasizes that the initial and final COM must be calculated from the same position to accurately determine the change in the center of mass of the system. The relevant equations for calculating the COM are referenced, highlighting the importance of consistency in measurement to assess the movement of the COM effectively.

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  • Understanding of center of mass (COM) concepts
  • Familiarity with collision physics
  • Knowledge of relevant equations for calculating COM
  • Basic principles of reference frames in physics
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  • Explore the principles of conservation of momentum during collisions
  • Investigate how reference frames affect measurements in physics
  • Learn about different methods for calculating COM in multi-body systems
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Homework Statement
Why must you measure the COM of a system from the origin before and after a collision?
Relevant Equations
COM formula
For example, in the problem below, if the center of mass is chosen to be measured initially at the center of the left mass, then it must be measured from the same position after the collision.

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This gives an initial COM of,

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and finial COM of,

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Which gives their change in center of mass of the system.

So why must I find the finial COM of the system with respect to the same place which I used to find the COM before the force was exerted on the system.
 
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String theory guy said:
Homework Statement:: Why must you measure the COM of a system from the origin before and after a collision?
Relevant Equations:: COM formula

For example, in the problem below, if the center of mass is chosen to be measured initially at the center of the left mass, then it must be measured from the same position after the collision.

View attachment 318103

This gives an initial COM of,

View attachment 318104

and finial COM of,

View attachment 318105

Which gives their change in center of mass of the system.

So why must I find the finial COM of the system with respect to the same place which I used to find the COM before the force was exerted on the system.
Because what we are trying to find is how far the CoM moved.
 
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String theory guy said:
Homework Statement:: Why must you measure the COM of a system from the origin before and after a collision?
Relevant Equations:: COM formula

For example, in the problem below, if the center of mass is chosen to be measured initially at the center of the left mass, then it must be measured from the same position after the collision.

View attachment 318103

This gives an initial COM of,

View attachment 318104

and finial COM of,

View attachment 318105

Which gives their change in center of mass of the system.

So why must I find the finial COM of the system with respect to the same place which I used to find the COM before the force was exerted on the system.
You can measure the center of mass from any position as long as you do it from the same place before any after the force. Hope that helps.
 
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