WIMPs or MACHOs: Which Dark Matter Candidate Holds More Promise?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparative viability of WIMPs (Weakly Interacting Massive Particles) and MACHOs (Massive Compact Halo Objects) as candidates for dark matter. Participants explore theoretical implications, evidence from cosmic microwave background (CMB) data, and assumptions that influence interpretations of dark matter evidence.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that WIMPs are generally considered more credible than MACHOs due to the latter's scarcity in large quantities.
  • There is a suggestion that the evidence for dark matter is strongly indicated by CMB data, which predates the formation of compact objects.
  • One participant questions the certainty of dark matter evidence derived from CMB data, wondering if it falls into a 'strongly likely' category rather than being a definitive conclusion.
  • Concerns are raised about assumptions in the interpretation of dark matter, particularly regarding fixed radiation density in the early universe, which could lead to alternative interpretations if relaxed.
  • Another participant mentions that the possibility of primordial black holes as dark matter candidates has been largely ruled out after extensive analysis of their permissible mass range.
  • It is argued that Big Bang Nucleosynthesis constrains the baryon content of the universe, suggesting that dark matter cannot consist of ordinary atoms, which effectively eliminates MACHOs as a viable candidate.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of MACHOs as dark matter candidates, with some supporting the idea that they are less viable compared to WIMPs, while others explore the implications of existing assumptions and evidence.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to assumptions about early universe conditions and the interpretations of CMB data, which remain unresolved.

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I have been thinking about this quite often, and I know that usually WIMPs are taken more seriously than MACHOs, and I know it is because MACHOS don't exist in such huge amounts, but why are they considered better candidates for Dark Matter?
 
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Quds Akbar said:
I have been thinking about this quite often, and I know that usually WIMPs are taken more seriously than MACHOs, and I know it is because MACHOS don't exist in such huge amounts, but why are they considered better candidates for Dark Matter?
The evidence of dark matter is seen clearly in the CMB, which was emitted before any compact objects could have formed.
 
Aha, I had been wondering about this quite a while, why have MACHOs been discounted as a DM candidate by most people working on it.
The idea that DM could be explained by there being a large amount of small material objects which simply are not visible to us because they are too small and dark always did seem like a simplest explanation to me.
Is the evidence of DM existing in the CMB data a hard certainty, or is it the 'strongly likely' category?
 
There are certain asumptions used that could affect our interpretations regarding dark matter. For example, it is assumed radiation density in the early universe was fixed. If you relax that assumption other interpretations are possible. See http://background.uchicago.edu/~whu/intermediate/driving2.html for discussion. There was a time it was speculated primordial black holes could account for dark matter, but, after extensive study and analysis of the permissible mass range for PBH's has nearly exhausted any possibility of them as a dark matter candidate.
 
Also, Big Bang Nucleosynthesis very tightly constrains the baryon content of the universe, and the required baryon content is quite consistent with what is derived from the CMB. So the dark matter can not be made of ordinary atoms. This pretty much eliminates MACHOS as a possibility.
 

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