Wind turbine to charge 12V batteries

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using a 24-volt permanent magnet generator (PMG) to charge a 12-volt battery bank, particularly in the context of limited wind conditions and the specifications of the charge controller. Participants explore technical aspects, potential challenges, and the economic viability of wind energy generation in low-wind environments.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires whether a 24-volt PMG can effectively charge a 12-volt battery bank given their charge controller can handle high voltage and dump at 14.5 volts.
  • Another participant questions the operational voltage range of the charge controller and whether it frequently drops out due to low voltage from the 12-volt PMG.
  • Concerns are raised about the power output of wind generators, noting that they typically require wind speeds of 15 knots or more to generate significant power.
  • A participant mentions that their average wind speed is below 12 mph, with only occasional higher gusts, leading to low voltage output from the turbine.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the investment in wind energy given the low wind conditions, suggesting it may not be cost-effective.
  • Another participant points out a lack of technical data on the charge controller, suggesting it may only charge a 12-volt battery within a narrow input voltage range, which could complicate the use of a 24-volt generator.
  • There is a suggestion that a more advanced charge controller with a DC-DC converter might be necessary to accommodate a wider range of input voltages.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the viability of using a 24-volt PMG for charging a 12-volt battery bank, with some expressing skepticism about the effectiveness of wind energy generation in low-wind conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal setup and the economic feasibility of the proposed system.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations related to the charge controller's voltage range and the wind conditions affecting power generation. There are unresolved questions about the specific performance characteristics of the charge controller and the PMG under varying wind speeds.

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I have a mws freedom pmg 12 volt 1600 watt PMG with falcon mach 3 blades. Live in city so turbine is only 12ft off ground. Don't get good wind. Can I use a 24 volt pmg to charge my 12 volt battery bank? Have charge controller that can handle high voltage and will dump at 14.5 volts. Also have 600 watt 10.8-30 volt GTI and 1000 watt 22-60 volt GTI. If I make to much power I could divert power to batteries and GTI's at same time. Will this work ?
 
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What voltage will the charge controller operate down to? Is the charge controller dropping out a lot of the time because the voltage from the 12V pmg is too low?
 
Independent of the voltage question, most wind generators don't make much power until the wind is 15 knots or more. Before investing a lot of money, you should ask yourself, "Do I have enough wind to make this pay?"
 
CWatters said:
What voltage will the charge controller operate down to? Is the charge controller dropping out a lot of the time because the voltage from the 12V pmg is too low?
Here is the kind of controller I have High amp rating: 440 amps, 10,000 watts.
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anorlunda said:
Independent of the voltage question, most wind generators don't make much power until the wind is 15 knots or more. Before investing a lot of money, you should ask yourself, "Do I have enough wind to make this pay?"
Most of time wind is Not over 12 mph until we have thunder storm. On average only 11 volts coming from 12 volt turbine. Have seen 22 volts in 50 mph gust but only for short time.
 
MAGGIE55 said:
Most of time wind is Not over 12 mph

That's too bad. In that case, I'm afraid you are wasting your time and money.
 
There doesn't seem to be much tech data available on the charge controller here...

http://store.mwands.com/combination-wind-solar-hybrid-charge-controllers/12-volt-wind-and-solar-charge-controller-w/led-display-1200-watt-divert-load/

It looks like it will only charge a 12v battery if the input voltage is in a narrow range. So I don't think switching to a 24v generator will work. I suspect you would need a more advanced charge controller that has a dc-dc converter in it that will charge a 12v battery from a wider range of input voltages including less than 12v.

I'm inclined to agree with anorlunda that you might be wasting money.
 
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