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The problem involves a skier, Sam, descending a frictionless slope while experiencing a headwind force. The context relates to the conservation of energy and Newton's laws of motion, specifically focusing on calculating Sam's speed at the bottom of the slope using two different approaches.

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  • Participants discuss the application of work-energy principles and Newton's laws to find the skier's speed. Questions arise regarding the correct calculation of forces, particularly the component of the headwind force acting along the slope.

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Some participants have offered insights into the calculations, questioning the components of forces involved and suggesting possible errors in the original poster's approach. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of forces acting on the skier.

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Participants note potential typographical errors in the original equations and calculations, which may affect the understanding of the problem setup. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the components of forces in relation to the slope.

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Homework Statement


MP 11.44

Sam, whose mass is 75kg, straps on his skis and starts down a 50-m-high, 20degree frictionless slope. A strong headwind exerts a horizontal force of 200N on him as he skies. Find Sam's speed at the bottom (a) using work and evergy (b) Using Newton's laws


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v2=v02 + 2ad

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The Attempt at a Solution



(a)

U = K + WHeadwind

vf=sqrt(2*(mgh+F*(h/sin20)*cos(160))/m)

Which got me= 15.7270m/s

(b)

Fnet = Fg - Fheadwind
a=(mgsin(20)-200/cos(20))/m

v2=v02 + 2ad
v= sqrt(2ad)

Which got me: 12.225m/s

I'm not sure where I went wrong. Any thoughts?
 
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jzwiep said:
Fnet = Fg - Fheadwind
a=(mgsin(20)-200/cos(20))/m
What's the component of the 200N force parallel to the slope?
 
200/cos(20) means that component of force along the slope is greater than the force itself!
You should write 200*cos20. Well, maybe it is just a typing error (like evergy) because you wrote mg*sin20 and not mg/sin20
 
Thanks. I drew the triangle backwards.
 

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