Work done by a force with a given equation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a force represented by the equation F(x,y)=2x^3 y^2 i+3xy^3 j as a particle moves from (0,0) to (4,2) along the curve y=√x. Participants express confusion about the vector components (i and j) and how to integrate the force along the specified path. It is clarified that i and j are unit vectors in the x and y directions, while x and y represent the particle's position. The conversation emphasizes the need to express the differential distance element in terms of these vectors to compute the work done. Overall, the discussion highlights the challenges faced in understanding vector calculus and the integration process for this specific problem.
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Homework Statement



A force acts on a particle and is given by the following expression:
F(x,y)=2x^3 y^2 i+3xy^3 j
What is the work done by this force in moving the particle from a position (x,y) = (0,0) to (4,2) along the path given by the curve y=√x ?



Homework Equations


I know the work is the integral of the Force


The Attempt at a Solution



Honestly, very confused. I don't know how to deal with the i and j values and I have no clue how to handle the work done along the path of a different curve. Any help is appreciated!
 
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Yes, work is the integral of the force wrt distance, each being a vector. So the integrand and differential element look like F.dp, the dot being the scalar product of the two vectors. (I've used p for position vector to avoid confusion with the x scalar in the question.) So you need to express the vector distance element along the path in i and j coordinates. When the particle moves a distance dy in the y direction, how far does it go in the x direction?
 
I kind of understand what you're saying, but not really. I don't even think I understand what the question is asking to be honest. I don't understand how there can be x and y but also i and j coordinate systems.
 
The i and j are unit vectors representing the x and y directions respectively. X and y themselves are magnitudes of position in those directions. I.e. the position vector of the particle at time t is x(t)i + y(t)j.
 
I'm honestly trying to do it but since my math isn't that strong and I've never seen a problem like this I'm just having problems. Can you do the first step for me or walk me through a bit more step-by-step? I'm just having extreme difficulty
 
y2 = x; 2ydy = dx
A small step in position = idx + jdy = 2iydy + jdy
You know the vector form of F. Take the dot product of this with position differential above.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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