Work Energy Concept Homework: Solving Statement

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The discussion revolves around solving a homework problem related to the work-energy concept, specifically calculating the work done by a pulling force on a block while considering resistance forces. Participants clarify that the work done by the pulling force equals the change in kinetic energy minus the work done by resistance forces. There is confusion about how to properly account for potential energy (PE) and kinetic energy (KE) changes, with calculations showing a gain in PE and a loss in KE. The correct relationship is established as the work done by the pulling force minus the work done by resistance equals the change in kinetic energy. Overall, the focus is on accurately applying the work-energy principle and resolving the confusion surrounding the calculations and force interactions.
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Homework Statement


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Ok I am all confused on this one.

ok so leave part (I) and (II)

onto part (III)

word done by the pulling force acting on the block = the loss of energy + work done by resisting force

by loss of energy i mean gain in PE - loss in KE

=(7500+225)-(1225)+(7.5 x 200) = 8000J

now I am confused as to whether or not the value of theta is mgsintheta or fscostheta please help
 
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Don't overcomplicate things. The work done by all the forces acting of the block from A to B equals the change in kinetic energy from A to B. Regarding the trig, draw a sketch.
 
ok then the loss in KE=1000J
but that's not the right answer, there's also resistance forces how do i take that into account and what do you mean by internal and external forces.

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work done by pulling force + work done by resistance force = change in kinetic energy. => (iii) work done by pulling force = change in kinetic energy - work done by resistance force. This should do.
 
work done by pulling force = 1000 -(7.5x200)=-500 J

i though it was

work done by pulling force= gain in ke + gain in ke + work done by resisting force

but if its loss in ke then we minus it
 
just bump this up.
 
Let's take one question at a time:

How would you calculate the answer to i)?
 
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loss in KE=1/2m(v^2-u^2)=
1/2(50)(49-9)=1000J

Gain in PE=mgh=(50)(10)(15)=7500J

so has the car goes up the straight hill it gains 7500J in PE but looses 1000J KE.
Because thers a resistance force of 7.5 N, the work done by it=fs=7.5(200)=1500J

So work done py pulling force=(7500-1000)+(1500)=8000J
 
radou said:
work done by pulling force + work done by resistance force = change in kinetic energy. => (iii) work done by pulling force = change in kinetic energy - work done by resistance force. This should do.

thats wrong

work done by pulling force - work done by resistance=change in kinetic energy
 
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thats wrong

work done by pulling force - work done by resistance=change in kinetic energy

If I wrote '+', that doesn't mean that the work done by resistance doesn't have a '-' to reveal behind its name. :wink:
 
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