Work extracted from a general cycle

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In a thermodynamic cycle, heat enters the system at specific points, represented as dQi, rather than continuously throughout the entire cycle. The total work done is calculated by summing all the heat contributions, dQi, from each part of the cycle, as heat can enter at multiple points. This understanding clarifies that heat does not enter uniformly but at designated intervals. The discussion emphasizes the importance of recognizing these specific points to accurately calculate work. Overall, the key takeaway is that the total work is derived from the sum of heat inputs at various stages of the cycle.
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In each cycle, the heat given to the system from the reservoir is dQ##_i##. So, why is the total work given by summing ##dQ_i ## over the cycle,why not only ##dQ_i##?

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Pushoam said:
In each cycle, the heat given to the system from the reservoir is dQ##_i##.
That's not what the text says: "Heat dQi enters at a particular part of the cycle." In the picture, it is represented by the solid arrow.
 
By the way these kind of questions, which are not textbook problems but are related to an understanding of what is in the textbook, are not well suited to the homework forum. Instead, post in General Physics.
 
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DrClaude said:
That's not what the text says: "Heat dQi enters at a particular part of the cycle." In the picture, it is represented by the solid arrow.
So, heat enters only through that particular part of the process. For the rest of the part of the process, the heat doesn't enter the system from the reservoir. This is what I understood.
Does the book mean that the infinitesimal heat enters at all infinitesimal parts of the cycle?
 
DrClaude said:
By the say these kind of questions, which are not textbook problems but are related to an understanding of what is in the textbook, are not well suited to the homework forum. Instead, post in General Physics.
I will take care of this from next time.
 
Pushoam said:
So, heat enters only through that particular part of the process. For the rest of the part of the process, the heat doesn't enter the system from the reservoir. This is what I understood.
That's not correct. Heat ##dQ_i## enters only during part ##i## of the cycle, but heat can enter at other places in the cycle, hence the sum over all the ##dQ_i## during the cycle.
 
DrClaude said:
That's not correct. Heat dQidQidQ_i enters only during part iii of the cycle, but heat can enter at other places in the cycle, hence the sum over all the dQidQidQ_i during the cycle.
O.K.
Now, I understood.
If the whole cycle is divided into n parts, then at ith part, the heat dQi enters the system.
 
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