Work to separate a plane capacitor

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The discussion revolves around calculating the change in electrostatic energy of a capacitor when the distance between its plates is increased after being charged. Two methods for solving the problem are presented, leading to confusion about a missing factor of 1/2 in one of the approaches. The first method involves calculating the energy difference using the new capacitance and voltage, while the second method attempts to define work in terms of charge and voltage change. The participant realizes their mistake and expresses gratitude for the clarification. The conversation highlights the importance of careful consideration of energy equations in capacitor problems.
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Homework Statement


A capacitor with C is charged by a battery to a voltage V and then disconnected. The distance between plates is slowly increased by an external force. What is the change of the electrostatic energy of capacitor during this process?

Homework Equations


I have two ways to solve the problem but I don't know which is correct.

The Attempt at a Solution


If the distance changed from d1 to d2, then
<br /> C&#039;=C\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}}<br /> \\<br /> V&#039;=V\frac{d_{2}}{d_{1}}<br /> \\<br /> \frac{1}{2}C&#039;V&#039;^{2}-\frac{1}{2}CV^{2}=\frac{1}{2}(C\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}})(V\frac{d_{2}}{d_{1}})^{2}=\frac{1}{2}CV^{2}(\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}}-1)<br />
On the other hand, work can be defined as W=Q[V'-V], then
<br /> W=Q(V&#039;-V)=QV(\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}}-1)=CV^{2}(\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}}-1)<br />
But it seems that there is a missing factor (1/2) in the second solution!
Where did I go wrong?
 
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Here already :$$
\frac{1}{2}C'V'^{2}-\frac{1}{2}CV^{2}=\frac{1}{2}(C\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}})(V\frac{d_{2}}{d_{1}})^{2}=\frac{1}{2}CV^{2}(\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}}-1)
$$W changes from + to - halfway ?
And try ##dW = Q dV## for the second approach
 
BvU said:
Here already :$$
\frac{1}{2}C'V'^{2}-\frac{1}{2}CV^{2}=\frac{1}{2}(C\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}})(V\frac{d_{2}}{d_{1}})^{2}=\frac{1}{2}CV^{2}(\frac{d_{1}}{d_{2}}-1)
$$W changes from + to - halfway ?
And try ##dW = Q dV## for the second approach

Okay! I got it!
Thanks a lot! haha!
 
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