Work with tension and angles problem

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The problem involves a child on a swing being pulled by a variable horizontal force while making an angle with the vertical. The context includes concepts of tension, equilibrium, and work done against gravitational potential energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss drawing free body diagrams to identify forces acting on the swing system and explore equilibrium conditions. Questions arise regarding the calculation of work done and the relationship between horizontal and vertical components of force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using free body diagrams and energy balance concepts to approach the problem. There is exploration of different interpretations regarding the calculation of work, particularly in relation to changes in potential energy and the role of horizontal force.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the calculations involved, particularly concerning the work done in the horizontal direction and the implications of the swing's motion. There is mention of integrating to find work done, indicating a focus on mathematical approaches without reaching a consensus.

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Homework Statement


A child of weight w sits on a swing of length l. A variable horizontal force P that starts at zero and gradually increases is used to pull the child very slowly (so the kinetic energy is negligible small) until the swing makes an angle θ with the vertical. Calculate the work done the force P


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Can anyone help with this? I am completely lost as to how to even start.


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Try drawing a free body diagram showing the 3 forces acting on the child (and attached swing) when the angle is θ (vertical gravity force, tension in cord, horizontal force P). At any point in this process, the child (and attached swing) are in equilibrium. Therefore the net horizontal and vertical components of force on the child are always zero. The vertical force balance gives you the tension in the cord. The horizontal force balance then gives you the horizontal force P as a function of the child's weight and the angle θ. This should get you started in determining the work.
 
Incidentally, the force exerted by the cord is always perpendicular to the motion of the swing, so it does no work. Therefore, from an energy balance perspective, the work done by the horizontal force P is equal to the change in potential energy of the child. You can calculate this directly, or you can use the information in my previous reply to integrate the force P over the arc distance.
 
I have a similar problem that I'm trying to understand.
So would it be correct to say that the work=Δy=l(1-cosθ)? Is there no work done calculated in the x direction? I'm a little lost.
 
Actually, it should be the integral of the change in y then.

That would be w= L∫(1-cosθ) dθ

Closer to the correct answer now?
 

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